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2014 Rankings: Top-200 | Top-200 (Half-PPR) |  Top-200 (PPR) | QB | RB | RB (PPR)| WR | WR (PPR) | TE | TE (PPR) | K | DST | IDP Rankings: Top-100 | DL | DB | LB

We’ve gone through each of the positions individually, so now it’s time to put it all together. When looking at IDPs as a whole, it’s a little bit different than Jay’s top-200 overall list. This isn’t a draft cheat sheet, but more of a tiered approach to compiling your roster. That’s why you’ll see essentially a series of position runs making up this list. The major takeaway is how to view the relative value of each position as opposed to deciding between specific players. I’m still sold on J.J. Watt as the top overall IDP because not only has he done it before, but he’s also still getting better, and now he has Jadeveon Clowney around to draw attention away from him. After Watt, you’ll see a huge list of LBs and DEs before things start to get mixed up in the 50s.

Keep in mind that this is using “standard” ESPN and Yahoo scoring systems, which is why DBs don’t enter this list until the 30s. This scoring system devalues the secondary, while putting an increased emphasis on Linebackers and dominant D-Linemen. It’s not necessarily my favorite scoring system, but it is the most widely used.

Here are my 2014 Fantasy Football Top-100 IDP Rankings:


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  1. steve says:
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    Could you recommend a habdful of useful IDP guys that also would accumulate punt and kickoff return yardage? My league rewards all three areas.

    • Kevin Kumpf

      Kevin Kumpf says:
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      @steve:

      This is a rare down year in the IDP/return yardage world. Patrick Peterson will likely cede his role to Ted Ginn, but there’s always the chance he gets put in when AZ needs a big play. Earl Thomas may return a bit, but you’re not getting him at a value (maybe put him as your DB1). Leodis McKelvin is an option, but only in leagues that require a CB to start. Outside of that, some fringe names are Buster Skrine, Micah Hyde, and Perrish Cox.

      Your best bet is to have someone breakout in preseason, or just to ignore the return yardage altogether for IDPs and focus on the defensive stats because this year the cupboard is nearly bare.

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @steve: yeah, i needed this one too. Cox/Mckelvin/thomas/hyde/skrine all likely owned predraft, but in case they aren’t, i’ll grab as my 2nd CB along with Hall. Peterson however, is unowned, but i think his name value (for all of those TD’s he used to get) will make him overdrafted.

  2. titan says:
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    Thanks Kevin. Good stuff as always. I religiously read your article all season. You have good insight and helped me dominate the IDP positions in my league last year.

    How would you adjust your rankings and this above list (in general terms – bump up or down certain types of players etc.) based on my watered down scoring system?

    Tackle = 1, Assist = 0.5, Sack = 2, Int = 2, FR = 2, FF = 1

    This is also the first year we’ve combined the IDP players into one draft with our offensive players. We used to have a separate IDP draft after the offense draft while the rest of my league got their feet wet with IDP’s, but I’ve got them liking it now, so we’re jumping in. I still feel with this watered down scoring, I won’t be drafting any IDP’s until late.

    Starting lineups: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1K, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB (14 starters, 8 bench)

    • Kevin Kumpf

      Kevin Kumpf says:
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      @titan: @titan:

      Appreciate the love!

      That is certainly a watered down scoring system, and one that rewards luck (Fumble Recoveries) more than I’d prefer. But we can’t always get what we want. In terms of rankings adjustments, I would disregard everything other than tackles. Go hard for MLBs, Strong Safeties and DEs that rack up tackles. Completely ignore pass-rush specialists or guys that require big-plays for value.

      I would definitely lock in your offensive starting lineup, as well as a backup or two, before looking at IDPs. If everyone else is doing the same, maybe snag your top guys, but offense will still rule your league with that scoring system. But any IDPs are better than no IDPs!

      • titan says:
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        @Kevin Kumpf:

        Agree completely. The average weekly score in our league is about 125 points (97 pts of offense and 28 pts of IDP).

        The issue I have with our scoring is that there is very little difference from the #5 thru #20 guys at each position. There are always a few guys at the top of each position that dominate but the rest can pretty much be streamed each week based on matchups. I’m the commish and trying to push for more IDP scoring, but I’m taking baby steps. What stat changes would you push hardest for in my league format? Maybe I’ll try to push for 1 or 2 changes this year or next.

        Also where would you rank DeMarcus Ware as a LB only? CBS does not give him DL eligibility.

        • Kevin Kumpf

          Kevin Kumpf says:
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          @titan:

          I hear you on the differentiation part, lower scoring tends to have that effect.

          To make IDPs have more of an impact, I would start by increasing sacks and interceptions to 3, because everyone loves those plays and that’s a good way to get people interested. I would flip Forced and Recovered Fumbles, because one is much more of a product of luck. And finally I would add passes defended, at the equivalent of a solo tackle so that DBs can get in on the fun.

          I wouldn’t call that system perfect, but those are relatively small changes that can get people more interested in the IDP side of things.

          As for Ware, he has pretty much no value as an LB-only play (especially with your league settings), and I’m shocked CBS lists him as one.

        • SethDaSportsMan

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          @Kevin Kumpf: @titan: Hi Titan and Kevin. Fellow Razzball football writer here.

          Just wanna say I think it’s great that you’re trying to integrate IDP into your league. Defense is half of football, right?

          I’ve played in IDP leagues before, but last year was the first year I integrated it into the home league I commish. I HATE that most sites default setting rewards more for fumble recoveries than for forces fumbles! Doesn’t even make sense.

          These are the IDP settings I concocted last year and I found them to be perfect and similarly reflect Kevin’s opinion as well:

          Tackle: 1.5 pts (.75 for 1/2 tackle)
          Sack: 4 pts (2 for 1/2 sack)
          INT: 6 pts
          Forced fumble: 4 pts
          Fumble Rec: 2 pts
          Safety: 8 pts
          Pass defensed: 1.5 pts
          Blocked punt, FG, XP: 6 pts

          I tried to weight them according to importance, as well as frequency. Like Kevin said, I made pass defensed and tackles equal value.

          Hope some of this helps and good luck this season!

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @SethDaSportsMan: 8 for a safety seems a bit much, the rest i like.

    • Nick says:
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      @titan:

      How did you do your two separate drafts? I am starting an IDP league this year and I want to start out with two separate drafts. Did you do offline? If you used a site (i.e. Yahoo, MFL, etc) can you share which one allows two drafts?

      THANKS!

  3. The Highlander says:
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    Can you give us some LB sleepers? Misi? Mingo Or Kirksy?

    • Kevin Kumpf

      Kevin Kumpf says:
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      @The Highlander:

      Misi is in a position to succeed, but as a Miami fan I just have never seen him flash talent. Mingo is likely to improve on his 2013, but is only viable in big-play leagues. Kirksey is my favorite of this bunch, but is not assured of starting by any means.

      My favorite deep-sleeper right now is Anthony Hitchens in Dallas. Some other cheaper options include Jamie Collins in New Endland, and both Kevin Minter and Larry Foote in AZ.

  4. goodfold2 says:
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    i asked Jay about this too, but want your input from IDP perspective, since we will be drafting WAY deeper in to defense than offense.
    20 teams where we all take a real life team name and have to have at least 12 of those players at any time (includes DL, 5 slots of that). We also have to keep minimum 12 predraft (technically we could keep all 30 players from our team). Roster might make SEA not the best choice, partially since we snake draft from last year’s standings, and two owners (IND and NO) are about to offer me a (likely) 1st round pick (14th or 15th) to have SEA, and then i could take either IND/NO or any of the remaining untaken teams in STL/NYG/TEN/BAL/HOU/PIT/JAX/ARI/MIN/WAS/TB/ATL/SD. i would also get the first round pick of whatever team i choose. so predraft all of the good players from all teams not mentioned are gone. this is also a dynasty (no prices,keep up to 30 per year)

    1 QB/1 RB/2 WR/1 TE/1 Flex (TE/WR/RB)/1 K/2 DE/2 DT/2 CB/2 S/3 LB/ and 12 bench slots.
    scoring is half PPR with
    Passing: .25 pt per pass attempt/ .5 per completion/ -.5 incomplete pass/ 25 yards per point/ bonus of 5 at 250 yds/ 7 at 300/ 10 pts at 400/ 6 pt throwing TD/ -3 picks/ -1 sack
    Rushing: .5 per attempt/ 10 yards per point/ bonus 5 pt at 100/ 7 at 150/ 10 at 200
    Catching: .5 per catch/ 10 yd per point/5 pts at 100/ 7 at 150/ 10 at 200.
    Return yards: 10 yd per point/5 pt at 50 yards/ 7 at 100/ 10 at 150
    All TD’s 6 and fumbles lost -2.
    Extra TD bonuses: pick 6 thrown -6/40+ yard completions 3 pts/ 40+ yd passing TD’s 4 pt / 40 + yd rushing attempt or reception 3 pt / 40 + yd rushing or receiving TD 4 pt/
    Field Goals: 1-19 yd 1pt /20-29 yd 2 pt/ 30-39 yd 3 pt/ 40-49 yd 4 pt/ 50+ yd 5 pt
    Missed FG: 0-19 yd -5 pt/ 20-29 yd -4 pt / 30-39 yd -3 pt / 40-49 yd -2 / 50 + -1 pt
    Point after: made .25 pt/ missed -.5 pt
    and like Kevin said standard non-big play based IDP with 1 pt per pass defended.

    with this very much value given to returning yards, i’m thinking i really need at least one big return play man in either austin or patterson. and pretty much make my CB’s return men too. since we are going so damn deep into defensive player pool (60 starting LB /80 DL / 80 DB), but not that deep at all into offense, i’m thinking i have to come into draft fulfilling these objectives
    1. have a LOT of usefully ranked IDP’s (top 100 by kevin rankings). it’s easier for a first timer just thrown into IDP waters to be able to keep good IDP guys.
    2. having a good offense. both short term and for future.

    i know you aren’t the guy to talk to about IDP players, but (see what you think) my best options seem to be
    1. SEA (RW/Harvin/Lynch/Michael/good kicker/Turbin/Baldwin/Kearse (returns) and IDP’s at 6,67,77,93 and 1 more just out of top 100). but would have worst picking spot
    2. WAS best offense (RG3/Reed/D-jax/Garcon/Helu/Morris and IDP’s at 41/83/87 and also 2 S’s in top 50 and another DE in top 50). also i would get 1st drafting slot (nobody owns HOU), AND i get 20th overall in first round from IND for giving him SEA. i also may be able to sell IND to current NO owner after this and get a third 1st rounder. all for having SEA in the first place. i could draft a kicker better than forbath (novak/walsh/STL kicker). could probably get peterson and patterson in first round, and maybe even top notch IDP too. or sankey.
    3. IND (Luck/Wayne/Hilton/Nicks/Richardson/Allen/Fleener/Bradshaw/Viniteri and IDP’s at 39, 56, 94). would get 20th overall along with 14th.
    4. STL (Stacy/Mason/Austin/Bradford/Britt/Cook/Zuerlein and IDP’s at 7, 13, 14, 80 with 2 DT’s in top 50 and 2 DB’s in top 50. pretty much best defense to take). would draft 5th overall and get at least 20th overall too (from new SEA), plus maybe a 2nd rounder from NO for giving him rights to IND. i would miss out on peterson, but would probably still get patterson and then grab a good QB (rivers/RG3/Ryan), or julio jones. later get better TE.
    other options SD (good offense, bad draft slot, IDP’s at 34, 63, 98 and a DE at 47th), would have picks at 14/20/28 and possibly 27)
    or PIT/ARI.

    tell me what you think, and also if i am forgetting any important prospects i should be looking to keep from whatever team i pick. seems to be too much value not to trade SEA, and then IND to pick up an extra 1st and 2nd.

    also, with bench spots (12) i’m assuming since you say to stream DB’s i shouldn’t have any of them on bench. a lot of extra RB/WR 1 extra QB, 1 extra TE, and probably LBs? probably 1 each of DE/DT due to injuries?

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @goodfold2: sorry about line saying “you aren’t IDP guy”. i copy/pasted from Jaywrong’s post.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @goodfold2: ok so i traded SEA to IND owner for 20th overall pick and traded IND to NO owner for his 2nd rounder (27th overall) for my 4th. now just to pick which team i am.

        • Kevin Kumpf

          Kevin Kumpf says:
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          @goodfold2:

          I saw your response in Jay’s post first so I responded there. Good luck!

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Kevin Kumpf: thanks, wondering about WAS IDP’s for future. i know about the entirely bright STL IDP’s future.
            clark/hatcher seem pretty old
            hall/meriweather seem mid NFL aged for DB’s.
            riley/orakpo/kerrigan/porter/robinson seem prime of careers

            1. if one is vigilant is one able over the years to grab good useful IDP’s (obv this is true with DB’s) in a super deep dynasty this. WAS seems to have good LB corps in place, but it’s DL’s need to be upgraded/replaced pretty soon.

            • Kevin Kumpf

              Kevin Kumpf says:
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              @goodfold2:

              IDPs for dynasty are bittersweet. Because scheme matters so much more on the defensive side of the ball, it’s often tough to project performance from prospects. I’ve had Sean Spence on my dynasty bench for two years waiting for him to get healthy and see the field, but now that PIT drafted Shazier, that may never happen. I’m doing the same with Tank Carradine.

              Vigilance is obviously important, but loyalty to a one specific player or strategy can often burn you in the long run.

              For WAS specifically, they’re always capped out so they always have holes somewhere. Their LB corps has been solid for years, though losing Fletcher will change their hierarchy. They never really put up stats on the D-Line, which is typically scheme-based. And their secondary is useful for streaming, with Hall as the only no-doubt weekly starter. Given the way that team is run, I’d be hard pressed to project anyone but their LBs in terms of fantasty relevance.

              • goodfold2 says:
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                @Kevin Kumpf: good news is i’ll have the vigilance, and no allegiances at all. as i thoght in this super deep league where we draft this many IDP’s, and 20 teams do it, i’ll probably keep Hall for sure, simply due to weaknesses at DE Hatcher (and attempt to draft the other 3 DL’s from the 25 out of 66 i have ranked from you/fantasy pros ), Clark and Meriweather at S (and try to grab one of the 13 higher ranked S’s, moving one of those 2 to backup. it’s actually good to hear that the turnover from year to year (and systems) helps me, since i won’t have to feel connected to any of these guys. thanks. i’ll likely be coming back soon to get some more names at DL. by my estimations I have about 79 out of the 80-100 names i need at LB, 71 out of 80 at DB (plus say names come out of nowhere with these guys), but only 66 out of 120 names at DL.

                • goodfold2 says:
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                  @goodfold2: and probably keep 3/4 of Riley/Orakpo/Robinson/Kerrigan and draft 1 more out of the 22 out of 77 ranked higher than Robinson

                  • goodfold2 says:
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                    @goodfold2: from below, my stashing on IDP’s is only from having 12 bench spots, and making sure i have enough LB’s/DL’s get injured. i won’t be having any CB backups. Really i’ll only have 1 at each position at most (unless the replacement level player at those positions renders that moot) at DE/DT/LB/S.

  5. Nate says:
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    Kevin, thanks for the rankings! This is my leagues scoring setup: http://imgur.com/a/uMojm

    It is a start up dynasty idp auction league. Do you think your rankings would apply pretty well to this setup? Any advice?

    Thanks,
    Nate

    • Kevin Kumpf

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      @Nate:

      Usually dynasty youth/prospects play a bigger part in dynasty rankings, but in your case I think the re-draft rankings apply pretty well for IDP. Because you only start 6 IDPs weekly, you should focus on more proven commodities there for consistency. The deep bench does somewhat allow you to stash players, but as I said to goodfold above, you can get burned by doing that.

      Streaming is not a typical dynasty strategy, and I wouldn’t recommend it too much on offense, but with this particular setup, you should stream as much as possible for your IDPs. Hold onto your top LBs and DEs if you have them, but there is no need to stay loyal to DBs or fringe guys who aren’t producing, even if you think they someday will.

  6. goodfold2 says:
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    where do you have hitchens and collins ranked for LB rankings? (i know it’s post 50, i now have 51-79 LB’s ranked using fantasy pros list. from clowney to mathis) hitchens/collins could be kept by NE/DAL owners but so far DEN owner didn’t even keep Trevathan, so another good thing about IDP’s crops up, ignorance of players.

    • Kevin Kumpf

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      @goodfold2:

      I made a couple of ranking tweaks yesterday after Trevathan’s injury, so Collins is now at 35. Hitchens remains out of the top 50 for now, but I’m hoping that changes based on the preseason. I wouldn’t want to rely on him this year, but he’s one of those low-risk/high-reward guys that I’ll try to take a flier on in deeper leagues once I have my starters set.

      With Trevathan out for at least a few games, I’d also take a look at Lamin Barrow, who I moved up to LB50.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Kevin Kumpf: added in barrow/moved trevathan down. where would hitchens be in this group (my current (from fantasy pros) 52-79)
        clowney/mack/bradham/d.williams/ruey/worilds/k.robinson/s.moore/woodley/ellerbe/z.brown/lamur/a.smith/kirksey/t.smith/hawk/spikes/suggs/mingo/kerrigan/abraham/brooks/hightower/hawthorne/mercilus/demervil/maualuga/borrowman/mathis.

        • Kevin Kumpf

          Kevin Kumpf says:
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          @goodfold2:

          I would have him around Kirksey for now, but both of them stand to move into the Top 50 if it looks like they’ll see some playing time. You have a lot of pass rushers in this list, which is common for Fantasy Pros, but they are typically less reliable week-to-week. If a Hitchens or Kirksey is indeed going to play MLB, I’d always take them over guys like Clowney and Mack, even with the huge talent disparity.

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Kevin Kumpf: ok, so i should move MLB up over other the other 3 kinds of LBs. i’m using ourlads.com for depth charts. (they seem pretty good, in depth) MIA/DEN/CAR/CLE/NO owners just sent their team keepers lists and they left out these, which is good
            Vernon DE
            Vaccaro S
            Mingo LB
            Trevathan LB
            Lofton LB
            Misi LB (a middle linebacker not kept by MIA?, he’s comish too, so would think he knows what he’s doing)
            and also orange julius not kept by DEN (hell knows why)
            1. MIA did just keep Grimes, a guy yahoo has listed as CB, but depth charts have as a LB.are there other guys like this, as this would seem pretty valuable to take the weakest IDP slot and have it be the best.

            • goodfold2 says:
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              @goodfold2: PIT also didn’t keep
              Heyward DE
              Shazier LB
              gotta love this ignorance.

              • Kevin Kumpf

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                @goodfold2:

                Lost of good options there, Shazier especially looks really good. Grimes is definitely only a CB, so nothing to see there outside of that role.

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