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I’m pleased to announce the debut of RazzDP Leagues, IDP’s answer to Razzball Commentator Leagues. I would be remiss if I did not give a major hat tip to my boy J-FOH both for giving me both the inspiration to put these leagues together, but also the name of the leagues themselves.

Now for the specifics. Much like the standard RCL’s, the RazzDP leagues are completely 100% free. On the offensive side of the ball, both the positions and the scoring system are exactly the same. The difference, as one might imagine, is on defense. We’ve removed the D/ST position entirely (the #NoTeamD movement lives on!) and replaced it with six IDP slots, two each for DL, LB and DB, as well as two additional bench slots. The scoring system is Yahoo standard for now, however if enough owners want to change things up a bit (JFOH is keen on upping the points for Passes Defensed), I have no problem making adjustments.

In terms of prizes, these leagues are separate from the regular RCLs, so they will not be eligible for those prizes. However, there will be a mystery prize that will be announced once we see how many leagues we can fill. The more leagues filled, the cooler the prize.

So how do you join these epic leagues? Just follow me after the jump!

Kevin’s LeagueClick Here!

J-FOH’s LeagueClick Here!

We’re starting with two leagues for now, but if those fill up we will add more by including the links in the Comments or in future posts. We seem to have a great group of IDP fans here at Razzball, so I’m excited to see how these leagues work out this year.

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  1. Clint says:
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    That move to eliminate Team D/ST is a great one. I tried doing that on Fantrax but for some reason that’s the one and only customizable option I CAN’T do for some reason so I merely scaled it way back. Good thing IDP leagues are around so us defensive fans can somehow see defense still outshine offense somewhere if we tip the scoring scales correctly :)

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Clint: That’s really strange. I have a couple advanced dynasty baseball leagues with fantrax, and while the UI is stuck in the 90’s, the level of customization is ridiculous. Shame to hear the football side is not as robust.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Jay: their UI rules. i’m in one 30 man baseball dynasty.

  2. William says:
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    looking forward to competing with you guys, signed up for both of them. loooooove some IDP action, great idea with these

  3. ADTrey says:
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    Ive never done idp before do you mind if I join even though I don’t have experience? I’d love to give it a shot

    • Kevin Kumpf

      Kevin Kumpf says:
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      @ADTrey:

      No experience required, first-timers welcome. But I have to warn you, once you go RazzDP, you never go back.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Kevin Kumpf: that whole last sentence really sounds like a sex act.

  4. Glad you guys are doing this, unfortunately, traveling both IDP draft dates listed. Weekends are tough for me to draft. Total bummer.

    FYI — I’m very down for IDP leagues, deeper the better. If there are enough sign-ups and someone else starts an IDP league or if you modify the draft dates, please let me know. My local league has been playing 14 team PPR with IDP leagues (6-8 players) for 6 years. Love the IDP side of the ball. So, if anyone else interested in forming an IDP only or IDP+Offense league, please let me know. I’m available to draft any week-night, preferably between 6-10 pm PST.

    Thanks guys. Keep up the great content.

  5. Birdmann says:
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    Love IDP been playing with Jack in ones before. Good stuff recommend you try this, change your world if you like defense.

  6. Acid Head says:
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    SO hyped for these RazzDP leagues! Already signed up! Guna spread the word so hopefully we can get abunch of these going

  7. Acid Head says:
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    Oh and who are some dynasty IDP names to keep an eye out for in this years draft class?

    • Kevin Kumpf

      Kevin Kumpf says:
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      @Acid Head:

      Other than the Shaziers and Mosleys of the world, my top two are Anthony Hitchens in Dallas and Christian Kirksey in Cleveland for contributing this year. Looking ahead, Demarcus Lawrence, Chris Borland and Dezmen Southward are more sleepers to watch.

      • Acid Head says:
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        @Kevin Kumpf: Nice thanks man! I’ve heard good things about Kirksey, they seem to really like him over there in Cleveland. But ya thanks again for the tips

      • And Now The Jon Lovitz Dancers! says:
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        @Kevin Kumpf: is that c.j. mosley the DT at DET, or c.j. mosley, the LB at BAL?

  8. goodfold2 says:
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    after your top 50 DL’s i found these other names from either fantasy pros and one of those magazines that used to have such relavance. please rank. this is the league with 20 teams, each with 2 DE’s and 2 DT’s starting, and i’d guess a backup of each as well (it does appear though at a certain point, esp with DT’s, the replacement level is simply equal to any backup you might have, thus negating the need for backups. does that sound credible?). so i’ll certainly need to rank more than the 50 i currently have ranked. With LB’s and DB’s i either have a good amount already or (in the case of CB’s) know we don’t need backups. plus with WAS i already have 2 S, and Hall. But only DL keeper is Hatcher (DE), so i’ll need 2 DT’s and 1 DE, even before backups. i have enough high draft picks (1 overall, 20th,27th, 40th, 41st), so i’m sure to get 1 top end DE (watt/quinn/campbell/m.johnson). if this list looks generally good just tell me where i’m wrong.
    D.Lawrence DAL DE (name grabbed from you)
    Ayers NYG DE (depth charts say backup)
    Ngata BAL DT
    Joseph MIN DT
    Wootton MIN DE (charts say backup)
    Kiwanuka NYG DE
    A.Smith OAK DE
    Woodley OAK LB/DE (counts as both in yahoo, wished he played LB, huh?)
    M.Daniels GB DT
    Mcdonald SF DT
    Fairley DET DT
    C.Redding IND DE
    R.Bryant JAX DE
    Alualu JAX DE (mag has him ranked, not bryant, but bryant listed as starter now)
    Thornton PHI DE
    W.Young CHI DE (listed as backup)
    Massaquoi ATL DE (listed as 3rd string)
    Easley NE DT
    Harrison NYJ DT
    Crichton MIN DE
    C.Peters ATL DT
    Sims OAK DT
    M.Jackson DEN DE (listed as backup)
    Hicks NO DE (this guy seems like bizarro world hakeem nicks)

    also want to make sure if any of your rankings have been changed due to injuries/demotions etc. thanks. getting almost all the way ready to draft this team.

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @goodfold2: this is dynasty, so it’s possible some guys aren’t very highly ranked for now and should be much better later. go with future value if it’s a greater value.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @goodfold2: don’t worry about Lawrence DAL, he was just kept by DAL.

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @goodfold2: add K.Biermann ATL DE to this list. for some reason he was listed as LB in a magazine but in real life and yahoo he’s a DE, which i need more of ranked.

          • Kevin Kumpf

            Kevin Kumpf says:
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            @goodfold2:

            Because you need 2 DTs, and the bulk of the top DEs will be gone, that’s where you’re going to find the best value. Of the list above, I like Fairley, Ngata by far the best, with McDonald and Joseph behind them and everyone else at replacement level.

            For DE, Kiwanuka, Woodley and Hicks are my favorites, and whoever ends up starting between Bryant and Alualu will have value. Considering how deep your league is, it’s not worth having backups that are replacement level with limited long-term upside, so your head is in the right place.

            • goodfold2 says:
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              @Kevin Kumpf: thanks. this IDP stuff completely new to me. very soon i’ll likely know more about names guys in shallow IDP’s barely know about, since they never needed to know.

  9. Looking for a Pretty girl From Indiana... says:
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    General question please Kevin (and who ever else wants to chime in) –

    Took my league IDP several years ago, but had to transition gently due to “complainers”. So here we are ten years later with eight IDP’s, but we still have Team D. Some people just love having Da Bears or the Steel Curtain (or even our hometown Horseshoes) on their team, but it just seems repetitive. I can’t come up with a definitive “good” answer to as we should not still have team D – can you please?

    Love, love, love all of your IDP insight — thanks!

    • Kevin Kumpf

      Kevin Kumpf says:
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      @Looking for a Pretty girl From Indiana…:

      The logic I use for situations like this is that you don’t draft Team Receivers or Team Runningbacks, because that would be double-counting the stats that the individual players are already accruing. If you have Earl Thomas and he gets a pick-6, but your opponent has the Seattle D/ST, that ends up being a net-even situation for you.

      The only exception I can see making is if the D/ST position can only get stats for points allowed and Special Teams yards/TDs. Those stats are not covered by IDPs, so it’s not double-counting anything. I personally don’t play in any leagues like that, but I can at least appreciate the logic.

      • Looking for a Pretty girl From Indiana... says:
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        @Kevin Kumpf: hey, that makes sense. I can sell that. Thanks.

  10. goodfold2 says:
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    huge reason why youse guys are the best. In that league all 20 teams keepers have reported and draft is sunday. look at all these names that weren’t kept even though it’s completely free to do so.
    LB
    Lofton/Trevathan/D.Jackson/B.Jones/Carter/Misi/Lamur/Mingo
    DL
    Vernon/Avril/Selvie/Poe/Ratliff/Mincey/Hunt
    DB
    Vaccaro/Ihedigbo/Gipson, and craziest of all , P. Cox (doing FULL return duties, and we have .1 pt per yard). also skrine and carroll. any of them will score more than other CB’s in this system. with Hall, i can just grab 2 of those returner CB and destroy box scores.

    1.with Chancellor’s job apparently taken away by jaron johnson at SEA, does that make jaron johnson the 19th ranked DB, like Chancellor was? both of these 2 weren’t kept either.

    I can almost make the argument that Cox will simply be the most valuable IDP in this league. worth more than even L.David (both of them). will try to grab him at 27th overall (after i’ve gotten peterson and hopefully patterson)

    • Kevin Kumpf

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      @goodfold2:

      Chancellor is still recovering from hip surgery, so that’s the only reason I can see him listed as a backup right now. He’ll be the starter if he’s healthy so I’m drafting him with confidence and ignoring Johnson.

      I like Cox in return yardage leagues, but be careful going all-in on him. The returner roles tend to have a high turnover rate in the NFL, and San Fran has a plethora of skill guys to turn to if Cox falters. If he wins the starting CB job then that’s one thing, but the latest I’ve seen, he’s not even a lock to start at Nickel back. I have no problem with drafting him due to his return duties, but I wouldn’t consider him a top-tier IDP unless he’s a lock to see the field on defense.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Kevin Kumpf: good to know about chancellor, as somehow SEA didn’t keep him. ya the way i usually go about grabbing return guys (j.jones for years) is to grab them lower than my projections say to (due to possibly losing return job), but still earlier than other owners. this is fine line of course. in the case of Cox (yeah listed as like 3rd string right now) he’s projected to get like 170 pts more than replacement level CB in this league. that’s 70 pts more than the top yahoo listed LB is expected to get (l.david in this case). But of course barring injury David’s floor is much higher, since his job will produce pts for sure. If suddenly Cox lost return duties he’d have about 0 value. Good news is Carroll is also projected at more pts than L.David, so i’ll go about grabbing a big name at needed spots (DT, DE) before grabbing him or Carroll then.

  11. goodfold2 says:
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    after the chancellor being starter but recovering from injury as to why he’s listed as backup, are any of these starters too (all listed as backups currently)?
    sanford MIN
    clemons HOU
    porter WAS
    verrett SD
    gilbert CLE
    clearly i’ll rank them at bottom of DB’s if they are backups. some are near the bottom anyway.

    • Kevin Kumpf

      Kevin Kumpf says:
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      @goodfold2:

      I’m surprised Chancellor is still listed as the backup, OurLads typically doesn’t do it that way. But my guess is that preseason makes life difficult on them as well, as they don’t really know what teams are thinking.

      Of that list, I like Sanford the most (and I think he’ll find a way to get onto the field) with Clemons behind him. Porter should see time at Nickel, and the rookies are always going to be question marks to start the season, but I can see both of them ending up as solid contributers. Gilbert is probably in the better situation, for this year.

  12. goodfold2 says:
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    ok, last backup set of questions. this one LB’s. right now all these are listed as backups. listed in order i already have them ranked, but they vary from 51st to 97th since there are starters in between them.
    barrow DEN
    t.smith JAC
    hitchens DAL
    Mercilus HOU
    Dumervil BAL
    borland SF
    p.brown BUF
    burnett OAK
    J.williams NYG
    Ayers TEN
    Bostic CHI
    Van Noy DET
    sheppard IND
    i’ll move them to back of rankings if they are backups.

    • Kevin Kumpf

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      @goodfold2:

      A lot of these guys will start the year as backups, but they’re young and have considerable upside. That applies to Barrow, TSmith, Hitchens, Borland, PBrown, Bostic and Van Noy. So if you’re not looking for a Week 1 starter, but for the chance at the most points over the course of this year (and possibly the future), I’d go with one of them.

      The rest are known commodities who will likely see 1-2 down work, but have a limited ceiling. Mercilus and Dumervil are rotational pass rushers, Sheppard and JWilliams have not made the most of their previous chances, and Burnett and Ayers are parts of a very confusing LB situations on their respective teams. If I absolutely needed a Week 1 starter, I’d go Dumervil, but I’d prefer to bet on the upside of someone in the first group.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Kevin Kumpf: i’m already keeping 3 WAS starting LB’s so should be covered for early in season (till injuries hit), plus i’m likely to grab one top 5 guy in draft (david or posluszny) so at these guys it’s completely about long term value. i’ll leave them ranked where they are, and i need to go back and put in age next to each player’s name in my master rankings list. so many of these guys project at similar number for this year, but this is forever keep up to whole roster dynasty, so would rather have a 24 year old vs 30 year old for sure. thanks. i’ve been ranking them by projected numbers over replacement level player (this is for every position).

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