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Josh Gordon, Aqib Talib

Don’t worry, I got five on it.

Despite pre-season nearly over and the media being inundated with “best shape of my life” stories and covering the on-going suicide watch of the Chiefs defense, there is one story, in particular, that was being watched closely by both the NFL and fantasy football fans alike. And that story was the Indianapolis Colts cutting LaVon Brazil after being suspended for the year after a second drug violation, while Jim Irsay, you know, does his thing. Oh, no, wait, that wasn’t it. The story being watched closely was Janay Rice’s apology for being knocked out and dragged unconscious on the floor by Ray Rice (to be fair, he only carried her two yards before falling down…), with the fallout of this incident being Rice suspended for two games. So I guess one game per one black eye is the going rate these days. Oh, wait, that’s not the story either. No, THE story which is under the NFL and fantasy sports nation’s microscope (it’s bedazzled, because, of course) is the status of Josh Gordon‘s appeal of his one year suspension. We can now all breathe easy and draft accordingly, for there has been a decision…

More than three months after reports surfaced that the NFL was suspending Browns receiver Josh Gordon for a year for violating the substance abuse policy, the league upheld that suspension Tuesday.”

Once upon a time (before this whole mess), I had this crazy notion about ranking Josh Gordon ahead of Calvin Johnson, and as ludicrous as it might have been (especially now), it wasn’t so long ago that I could have made a strong argument before you tried to snap me back to reality. Remember, Calvin Johnson had 84 receptions, 1,492 yards, and 12 touchdowns in 2013. Josh Gordon had 87 reception 1,646 yards, and 9 touchdowns. At the very least, he was your WR2 off the board and a probably top-10 pick. Now? Not so much.

“Last year’s league-leading wideout has waited for word on his future since the second day of May’s draft, when we first learned that Gordon faced a potentially lengthy suspension for a positive drug test. Gordon was also suspended two games by the league last year for violating the substance abuse policy.”

Because I like tooting my own horn, unless we’re talking sexually, then that’s your job, I want to say that there’s been at least one person that’s been writing about how you have to trade Gordon, you have to draft not-Gordon… you basically have to stay away from everything Gordon. Jim Gordon? Let Batman deal with him. Gordan Gekko? He’s a jerk. That one person, if you hadn’t guessed yet, was me, since I only read the things I write. Really helps build a wide consensus, so says my ego. Regardless, on the off chance that someone was an optimist in this world (LOL), you might have been able to feed off of that and rid yourself of the risk, and if you were the optimist, well, remember, the world hates you.

Even in terms of dynasty leagues, there’s still risk here. Whether or not you believe marijuana should be legalized or not, there are other behavior issues at play here, and Gordon has shown little regards in abiding by the rules set forth. And that’s probably Obama’s fault. High risk, high reward? Certainly. But to overwhelm you with metaphors, is the juice worth the squeeze? No, not really, and because of that, I’m happy to stay far away from Josh Gordon and, you know, all the other Gordon’s from here on out.

  1. Clint says:
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    Oh well, here’s hoping Gordon and Justin Blackmon are locked in a rehab center for the next year and sneak onto draft boards in 2015 where we can get delicious, tasty vittled-value out of both of them late. I did that last year and it nearly worked until Blackmon went off the rails himself.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Clint: Yeah, I mean, we’ll have to play it by ear next season, but let’s see if he can actually get through a 12 month period without messing something up.

      • Mordacious Levator says:
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        @Jay: dude should really just hang out in weed legal areas now that he’s gone for so long. same for blackman.

  2. Billy bob bob billy says:
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    Would you trade Crabtree/Sankey for vereen? Standard league

  3. Grant says:
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    Well I drafted him as like my 5th receiver, because he could have been awesome even for like a couple games. I think I’ll just keep him on my roster so when I win I can laugh at all my other league mates that I had a guy who didn’t even play on my team.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Grant: Yeah, a WR5 is fine, but I’ve seen him go as high as the 10th round a few times. Insane.

  4. SMLV1 says:
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    Would you drop Pierre Thomas for Bishop Sankey in a 10 team standard redraft?

    • Sully says:
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      @SMLV1: yup

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @SMLV1: Sankey has been having some fumble issues, so I’d hold for now.

  5. GuesshesnotcommissionerGordon... says:
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    12 team keeper league with five keepers…so far im at:

    1. E. Lacy
    2. Megatron
    3. A. Foster
    4. K. Allen
    5…. i am at a cross roads…it would have been J. Gordon…but now do I keep B. Tate, V. Cruz or C. Kaepernick?

    Thanks

  6. Bryce Krispie Treats says:
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    Jay, I was just looking thru the WR PPR rankings… Not high on Colston this year? Any specific reasons to avoid him?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Bryce Krispie Treats: He’s okay, but I think other weapons will emerge, like Stills. And he always seems to have some kind of nagging injury.

  7. Jake Olmstead says:
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    Gordon should go out and beat as many women as possible. Than maybe he can have his suspension reduced and I can win my league! … After dropping Gordon, I need to pick up another TE off waivers, should it be Heath Miller or Kelce?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Jake Olmstead: Agreed. I’m interested to see Jim Irsey go knock some people out, just to see how the NFL would treat that.

      I like Kelce, but you have to go Miller here.

      • Jake Olmstead says:
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        Jim Irsey is an old rich white guy. Only Donald Sterling can mess up that kind of privilege. lol … Thanks, I do have L.Green, maybe I should get a TE who actually starts for there team in
        Miller :)

  8. Steve says:
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    10 team standard
    I took Keenan Allen over Ellington for my flex spot
    U agree?
    Tough call
    Have d Thomas and Jeffrey as both WR

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Steve: Yeah, it’s fine. Ellington is getting a lot of hype, but there’s a lot of risk there too.

  9. Ron says:
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    12-team .5PPR 2 keeper league. With the team I have and the position requirement, which route would you take of these 4 options?

    1. Trade Cruz and Colston for Graham and Matthews?
    2. Trade Cruz and Crabtree for Graham and Matthews?
    3. Trade Cruz and Cameron for Graham and Matthews?
    4. Stay put!

    QB – Rodgers
    RB – Charles
    WR – Megatron
    WR – Cruz
    RB/WR – Stacy
    TE/WR – Crabtree
    DEF – Bengals
    K – Dawson

    BN – Cameron (TE)
    BN – Colston (WR)
    BN – L. Miller (RB)
    BN – Cooks (WR)
    BN – Baldwin (WR)
    BN – C. Hyde (RB)
    BN – T. West (RB)
    BN – Wheaton (WR)

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Ron: I would do all of them to be honest. In the order of 1, 3, and then 2.

      • Mordacious Levator says:
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        @Jay: somebody really doesn’t value graham much, or mathews as if he’s a 7th round player. or maybe colston way too much and one of the first 2 things.

  10. goodfold2 says:
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    you know damn well if alex gordon falls to like 140th or so we’d all be fools not to take him. hell most of us following this site take him at around 90-110th as is and think we’re geniuses as is.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @goodfold2: Okay, okay, you got me there.

  11. Mike says:
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    Im in a bind. Im in a 10 team head to head, 2 QB, PPR league. We draft on Tuesday and Im drafting #1.

    Im not having much luck finding mock draft sites to practice my strategy. I have a few ideas. Im leaning towards getting a Qb(Manning or Brees) in the first, then prob WR, RB with the 2nd and 3rd rounds on the turn.

    I hate the first pick but No one will trade with me. Im open to suggestions to make this work out…thanks

  12. goodfold2 says:
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    how’s this one look. it’s standard with only 4 pts per throw TD. i helped somebody out, not my team. it’s why not only it has a backup QB, but where he went. bell is falling a lot with weed pull over. which is nice. round in (). TE and WR are just “receivers”. league plays 1 QB/2 RB/ 1 RB or WR/ 2 WR or TE. so 0-2 TE can start.
    QB – Romo (7, QB’s were on run in this one, even as backups)/Roethlisberger (10)
    RB -L.Bell (3)/Spiller (4)/ C.Johnson (5)/ Ivory (9)/ McCluster (13)
    WR/TE- Graham (1, 1 pick before megatron)/Dez (2) / Wright (6, over Floyd)/ Olsen (8)/ Cooper (11)/ Rudolph (12)
    K -Henery (14)

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @goodfold2: this is the kind of league (no def either) that we were the only team to draft a kicker in last round, except for 1 overall seed, they got theirs at the turn between 2nd to last and last round. i made damn sure that didn’t happen, as guy i was helping wanted to succumb to that b.s.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @goodfold2: This is a pretty good team. Dez, Graham should anchor your points. RB has some risk, but should be okay.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Jay: drop rudolph for either of hillman or t.wright? i’m just noticing that mccluster counts as WR in espn. for some reason espn is the yahoo of football. mccluster’s only RB in yahoo.

        • goodfold2 says:
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          @goodfold2: since i can’t even make this decision till after first week’s games are over i guess i should wait to see maybe if ball looks ok blocking first. i’m thinking that’s a damn good job to steal if/when he gets demoted for pass pro issues or fumbling.

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @goodfold2: I’d hold on Rudolph.

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @goodfold2: And yeah, I think in some formats, he gets dual eligibility.

          • goodfold2 says:
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            @Jay: my friend’s about to get screwed by those “can’t add anybody till after week 1 is over b.s. situations” if in fact henery gets benched in week 1.

  13. Mike says:
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    2QB dynasty league, 6 pts all tds, 1/2ppr, we can keep 10 players every year and they keep their round value. We start 2qb, 3wr, 2rb, 1flex, k, def. Which 10 am I keeping?

    Heres my list of possible keepers

    Cam Newton (1)
    Kaepernick(15)
    AJ Green (2)
    Josh Gordon (16)
    Keenan Allen (18)
    Jamaal Charles (4)
    Giovanni Bernard (5)
    V Jax (9)
    Jordy Nelson (5)
    Cordarelle Patterson (9)
    Justin Hunter (18)
    Christine Michael (11)

    Basically i have to kick 2 off the list to get my 10. I hear u being worried about Gordon but as a 16th round price tag which would inflate to round 15 next year I’m very tempted to stash him all yr. Thanks!

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Mike: Patterson, Nelson, VJax, Charles, Allen, Kaepernick, Hunter, Newton, Green, Bernard.

      • Dan says:
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        @Jay: thanks bud!.. just wondering if it were only 9 that I could keep, which player out of the 10 that you picked would you give the boot? Thanks again!

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @Dan: Probably Newton.

  14. vinodole says:
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    Hey Jay,

    I’ve looked through the comments to your other posts and, I may have missed something but, I’m really interested in hearing your explanation for the gigantic gap between your ranking of Ryan Matthews and that of other “experts”.

    What gives?

    My draft is coming up and I’m all in on Razzball as my go-to fantasy advice source (thanks Grey!!), so I’m most likely going to draft Matthews based on the tremendous value that you predict relative to his ADP.

    So basically I just want you to make me feel better about taking him with my third pick (27 overall) over, say, Giovanni Bernard or Montee Ball or Randall Cobb

    Cheers! :)

    • vinodole says:
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      @vinodole: NVM FOUND YOUR UNDERRATED POST!

      Me quoting you: “In fact, while not the most scientific approach, just prorate his last 10 weeks of play and you have a back who has 320 carries, 1,488 yards, and 10 touchdowns. That would put him in the conversation with Matt Forte, Alfred Morris, and Eddie Lacy.”

      Sick!

      • Jay

        Jay says:
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        @Jay: @vinodole: Well, I wouldn’t expect those numbers, but I think he’s primed for a great year.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @vinodole: I’d certainly get Mathews in the 3rd or 4th round. I definitely like him over those guys, but make sure you are getting value.

  15. Tarman Got Him says:
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    What are your thoughts on Jeremy Hill?

    I dropped Woodhead for Moreno. I know by your rankings the answer is no, but Moreno looked good in Preaseaon game 3 and he has a good
    QB behind him. The 2 leagues where I own him I basically have him handcuffed w Lamar.

    I am a Dolohins fan and I usually never own that man Fish, but I got great value on Miller Clay and Hartlone this year and Wallace that I own each in at least 2 leagues.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Tarman Got Him: Honestly, homerism is fine. I own Chargers that I shouldn’t, it’s just the way it is. Besides my Mathews infatuation though, I try to have the mindset of “do what I say, not what I do”. In that case, Moreno is fine, but he might be Lamar’s handcuff depending. And I think Clay is being wildly undervalued.

  16. DiRo says:
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    So I got Matt Ryan and Tony Romo and this guy wants to trade me Brady. I am Pats fan, but no homer when it comes to fantasy football, but I am conflicted on this trade. I also need an upgrade at TE as I only have Clay and Ebron, not the worst but not very good.

    Would you trade Romo(or Ryan), K Wright(or Edleman) and Ebron for Brady, Pitta and Malcom Floyd?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @DiRo: I would hold. That’s not a good trade for you, either combo.

      • DiRo says:
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        @Jay: What if it was Romo/Edelman for Brady/S Smith?

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @DiRo: Eh, I’m kinda okay with that. I just think the gap between Brady and Romo does not match the gab between Edelman and Smith.

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