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With the majority of trade deadlines closing last week, I thought it best to move on to a subject we all know is important but sometimes we have a hard time looking beyond the week at hand.  With thinking forward, I’m going to do my best to pander to those who are playoff bound and may have room on their bench to look beyond the week at hand.  Some of it will be grabbing the player who will be virtually ignored until he or she – hey, it could happen some day people – does something this week.  Others will be a wait and see call.  And others will be a look at those who have good matchups who could perform the following week and are a good stash for the time being.  So without further ado, let’s put on our x-ray glasses – you know, those kind that help you see into the future – and see what we can see for beyond week 12 for 2012 fantasy football…

Knowshon Moreno - I don’t even have to look at your league.  If it’s competitive enough, Ronnie Hillman will gone as you read this as the top replacement for Willis McGehee in Denver after he went down. Lance Ball also got a few carries so he’ll probably be an early morning/waiver nab too but I simply want to bring up the guy who’s going virtually ignored everywhere.  Now this is a grab and watch play.  If he does nothing this weekend, toss him back on the heap like all the other FA trash out there and be done with him.  You could might find a fantasy diamond in the rough or you might get cubic zirconia but he’s worth a kick of the tires at this point and it won’t feel like a kick in the ‘A’ to grab him right now.

Jacquizz Rodgers – As always, these are grabs as needed.  Though vastly improved defensively over the last few weeks, New Orleans still gives up the most fantasy points to opposing backs.  On only 7 touches, Rodgers turned in 62 total yards of offense while Turner only managed 15 yards on 13 carries.  Obviously can’t say for sure if it happens but splits like that say maybe Rodgers gets a few more touches against NO when they face up again in week 13 and at only 43% owned in yahoo leagues and 13% over at ESPN, he’s there for the taking if you’re in need.  Let’s also not forget the Falcons will want a fresh team for the playoffs and Turner is starting to show the second half plunge he did last year over the last 5 games (83 carries for only 254 yards and 2 TDs.  Good for a 3.0 YPC and a frownie face sticker).  Maybe we start seeing a team giving rest to its vets and for that reason, Rodgers could be a good week 13 and beyond stash.

Laurent Robinson - Just dropped a really bad game on the few fantasy owners he has (yahoo 10%/ESPN 26%) while Justin Blackmon went nuts.  I’ve already said I don’t believe in what Blackmon did but I do believe in the 24 targets over two weeks Laurent received prior to Sunday.  Given that the Bills have one of the worst defenses in the league, it’s not unthinkable Laurent regains his mojo in week 13 and may become an FA target after a date with a terrible Titans defense in week 12.  Stash me if you can.

Tony Moeaki - Don’t laugh.  Seriously, I have a typer’s lisp and it’s embarassing…sthop laughing at me!  But for reals, I’ve already mentioned a bit ago that Tony was a decent add if you were in need of a TE.  Is he going to replace your beloved Gronk?  Hells to the no, childrens, but he’ll definitely be a better pick up than Visanthe Shiancoe in my eyes.  Of course, I think we’re still looking at a 14 team league type of pick up here so I’m not going to try and sell him too hard.  I’ll simply say that over the last 4 weeks, he has been the 18th best TE…hrm, that’s still not a ringing endorsement.  But considering he had a goose egg game in the last 4, that means he’s been pretty good in 3 of them.  Thought you’d never see the silver lining to a goose egg day, din’cha?  Not sexy, not gonna score you many touchdowns – nor will any Chief – but he has a good matchup versus Carolina in week 13.  For those who are now without their beloved Gronk, he could be a decent fill-in.  Oh and this week?  He faces the Broncos, the team that gives up the most fantasy points to opposing Tight Ends.  You know, no bigs.

From Around The Web

  1. Salty Balty says:
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    I’m in a bit of a bind. I have Edelman on my bench and Percy Harvin slated to start, but I’m not that confident in Harvin this week. Should I start Edelman on Thursday? If I don’t start him, I can sub in Andre Brown for Harvin if he can’t play on Sunday. PPR league.

    Thanks for all the advice this year

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I jokingly said Julian Edelman was Danny Woodhead with a girl’s name earlier this week. Woodhead had 0 touches a week after he had 2 touchdowns. I would not trust Bill Belichick enough to start Edelman with confidence over either Harvin nor Brown. Wait until Sunday and then decide between those two.

      • Salty Balty says:
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        @Sky, thanks.

  2. Principle Blackman says:
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    Could you Rank the following dudes ROS in a PPR/Return Yardage format:
    DHB, Denarius Moore, Brandon Lloyd, Josh Cribbs, Julian Edelman.

    Also, do you think Knowshon Moreno or Bryce Brown has more upside going forward? Would be my RB4. I don’t have either of McCoy or McGehee. I’m just looking for depth/Rashad Jenning’s Replacement.

    • Principle Blackman says:
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      @Sky,

      Also, thanks in advance. Your advice has consistently been the most spot on of any of the sites I’ve visited over the course of the season.

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        Hey thanks man! Glad were doing a good job around here.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Moore/DHB/Lloyd/Cribbs/Edelman

      Moreno only because he has the clearest shot at a starting gig ROS than Bryce. Can’t see LeSean missing the rest of his games

  3. Cheese says:
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    It’s funny to think that Moreno was a top 15 pick in his draft year, and Foster went undrafted that same year…

    But anyways, I was offered Tony Gonzalez, Marques Colston and Vick Ballard for LeSean McCoy and Jermaine Gresham (I would drop Michael Bush)

    All 3 would become starters on my team (16 team return yardage league). My only other RB is Forte. The guy offering me this deal managed to get Bryce Brown due to his higher waiver claim, which is why he is probably making this offer. My other WRs are Harvin, AJ, VJax and Wallace. I would then probably trade one of these WR for another RB. I’m a little worried about McCoy, not necessarily because of the injury, but more because of Philly’s situation.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks,

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Other than Wallace, you’ve already got a strong WR set. Though I agree with your concerns, I don’t think McCoy should be sold for that package

  4. Murph says:
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    Flex?: J Stewart/Hilton/Fitzgerald

    Would I be crazy to start Romo over Ryan? Be nice with your response as I should know better to even ask. Haha

    Which watch and wait would you want Moreno or Jennings?

    • Murph says:
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      @Murph,

      That’s “old spice” Jennings not “forgot how to run like he did in preseason” Jennings.

      • Sky

        Sky says:
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        @Murph, Haha, I’ll be nice! They both have very good matchups but that last game was too fluky. Would rather go Ryan there but your question wasn’t unreasonable given the circumstances.

        Ha, I assumed that…I’d rather take the history of Old Spice there.

        • Murph says:
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          @Sky,

          The only reason I’m even considering it is the combination of Romo’s matchup and a less than healthy Julio Jones. On top of all that not only is Demarco Murray doubtful but now there are injury concerns with Felix and Dumbar… Who’s going to run it? I’m all about volume and if Romo gets 40-50 attempts against a terrible Redskins secondary the numbers could be there. Not concerned with Ryan at all ROS as discussed before that last game was a result of a lot of tipped balls resulting in 5 INTs against a well rested Cardinals defense at home.

          Any thoughts on the flex
          Question? I know it’s early in the week but I’m dealing with 2 inconsistent players and 1 unknown

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            I could see that. Ryan does have other options that are just as trust worthy (Tony/Roddy/Harry Douglas when healthy), but I can see the argument in terms of volume. Just think the Falcons come back mad this week. If Julio’s around, I’d still say ATL but I can’t fault your argument concerning Romo.

            • Murph says:
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              @Sky,

              True but I makes it a lot easier to shut the passing game down double team roddy, single Harry and safety on Tony. Defenses can just stay in deep cover two and laugh while Turner gains 2 yards a carry against 3 down lineman and 2 linebackers.

              • Sky

                Sky says:
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                While I could see that, in the end the Buccs are the 5th worst in terms of giving up fantasy points to opposing QBs. If Rivers can go for 330 with 3TDs against them featuring Malcom Floyd/Danario Alexander/Antonio Gates, I still think Ryan can have a good day. But in the end, I can’t foresee either him or Romo finishing outside the top 10 for QBs in terms of scoring this week.

                • Murph says:
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                  @Sky,

                  Very true and just for kicks check out Romo’s and Ryan’s home and away splits.

                  • Sky

                    Sky says:
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                    Wow, that’s nuts. Though I checked them out further than this year and don’t see the trend holding. Considering they both had their own stinkers at home this year (Ryan’s 5 last week at home vs Cards and Romo’s 9 total between NYG and CHI at home), it’s not surprising to see the split. I’m not one to toss out stats but in a 16 game schedule that we’re only 2/3rds through, it would make sense we have that line from them given those 3 games.

                    • Murph says:
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                      @Sky,

                      Yeah like I said just for kicks I’m a sucker for flukey tends. Good luck this week the real Thursday football is finally here!!!

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Haha, indeed you too my good man! I’ll get to watch all three from the sanctity of my couch. It will be glorious. Enjoy your Thanksgiving!

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      @Murph, Missed the flex question: tough one…Stewart by a nosehair.

      • Murph says:
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        @Sky,

        Thanks lets hope for a repeat performance from the daily show.

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Indeed. He’s really done a good job. Carolina needs to be smart and stick to what they said and get him more touches.

  5. hotrod says:
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    I have been offered Colston & Demaryius for AJ….

    Not sure what to do, do you make that deal?

    I have Julio & Steve Smith as well, if Julio were 100% I wouldn’t even consider the deal, but with his snaps being limited now, I think I’ll be starting Steve Smith, so essentially, would you rather go with (for the next week or 2)

    AJ & Steve

    or

    Demayius & Colston??

    I need to win my final two reg season game sto make the playoffs…

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      That’s two WR1 for the best WR1. Very tempting. I take it you can only start 2 WR a week? Could you flex any?

      • hotrod says:
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        @Sky,

        My starting lineup prior to deal:

        Flacco
        Charles
        Matthews
        AJ
        Steve Smith(Julio when healthy
        Gresham/Hernandez
        OP(Flex, but can start QB) Cam
        D
        K

        My starting lineup prior to deal:

        Flacco
        Charles
        Matthews
        Demaryius
        Colston/Julio
        Gresham/Hernandez
        OP(Flex, but can start QB) Cam
        D
        K

        Im thinkin stay put?…thanks for your help..

        • hotrod says:
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          @sky,

          2nd lineup is obviously after the proposed deal..thanks!!

          • Sky

            Sky says:
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            @hotrod, Tough decision. Fair trade if you can move Julio for an RB. Wouldn’t want to sit any of those three ROS if they’re healthy.

  6. BringDaRuckus says:
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    Dalton or Luck ROS?

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      @BringDaRuckus, I’d say Dalton there but I’d probably be in the minority.

      • Murph says:
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        @Sky,

        I concur sir

        Luck: 57% completion 2,965 yards 12 TD 12 INT

        Dalton: 64% completion 2,559 yards 20 TD 11 INT

        Both are decent options but Lucks current fantasy value is boosted by his rushing TDs that happened during the absence of a rushing attack (Vick Ballard and Deleone Carter are the preferred options on the goal line now) I just believe Luck is overhyped and Dalton has a weapon in AJ Green that sets him apart. Keep in mind the colts play Houston week 14 and 16

  7. Zeke says:
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    Laurent Robinson is on the IR now? Great. Now all my shitty injury replacements need injury replacements.

    • Murph says:
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      @Zeke,

      Crazy that Robinson goes on IR for a concussion looks like the coaching staff is confident in Blackmon with Spurlock as their third option.

      Titus young suspension might open the door for Broyles and Mike Thomas. Super deep speculation though. Still need to compete with Calvin for targets.

      • Zeke says:
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        @Murph, Yeah, I’m digging pretty deep. We have too many damn bench spots in my league. A few injuries and I went from a strong second place to most likely bottom third, in nothing flat. Concussions are brutal. I just can’t imagine how many went undiagnosed in years past.

        • Murph says:
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          @Zeke,

          Good luck plenty of receiver depth out there but hard to find consistency. I am in the exact opposite position as I joined a league this year with 5 bench spots….beyond frustrating

          • Zeke says:
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            @Murph, That is pretty hardcore.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      You and me both!

  8. Chillmodious says:
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    Good morning Sky,

    A few interrelated questions for you at bottom, concerning the following roster:

    QB – Tom Brady
    RB – Doug Martin
    RB – Fred Jackson
    Flex – Jalen Parmele
    WR – Percy Harvin
    WR – Randall Cobb
    TE – Aaron Hernandez
    D/ST – Packers
    K – Gostkowski

    Bench – James Starks
    Bench – Malcom Floyd
    Bench – Danario Alexander
    Bench – T.Y. Hilton
    Bench – DeMarco Murray [OUT]
    Bench – LeGarrette Blount [Handcuff]

    ——————————————

    1. This is the roster I’m planning to deploy this week barring unforeseen circumstances or injury setbacks (i.e. Aaron Hernandez), but would you make any changes in light of the available bench options? Parmele and Fred Jackson are vexing me.

    2. In the event Percy Harvin can’t go on Sunday, who becomes the WR fill-in off my bench–Malcom Floyd, Danario Alexander, or T.Y. Hilton?

    3. Someone dropped Kenny Britt today and I could likely scoop him up on Friday. I think he makes for a very high upside playoff stash, especially considering I have first place locked up right now. Anyone on this current roster worth dropping for him? (Blount seems to be the most likely candidate, but he’s the handcuff to my most valuable player)

    THANK YOU!

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      1) I have no problem rolling with the RBs listed. I’m not as low on F-Jax as other people are. I think him and CJ compliment eachother more than they hinder.

      2) T.Y. for me

      3) I don’t believe in handcuffs unless the player is good. If you’re looking for upside, drop Blount for Britt.

  9. iMP says:
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    A general question with a specific plan in mind about handcuffs.

    My league allows only 4RBs to be rostered with 2 to start. I have Foster and Greene healthy, DMC and Murray not. Obviously, Murray and DMC have top 12 potential, just like Ben Tate, with injury, instead of opportunity blocking their path. If both DMC and Murray were healthy (hah, hah, hah, hah, hah…umm….hah) would it make sense to drop Greene and pickup Tate for insurance? Short of that scenario, I can’t afford to hold a handcuff. Does this sound right?

    By the way, Fantasy Football 101 might make for an interesting column series in the summer, though most of your readers probably have been playing a lot longer than I have.

    • Murph says:
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      @iMP,

      With Tate’s nagging toe and hamstring injuries it’s a risky proposition to add him at this point with Justin Forsett as the #2 behind Foster. Always better to have starters than handcuffs and it looks like your league forces you not to have handcuffs. Keep an eye on carries this week between Mr. 5 points per game Greene and Powell as Rex Ryan has stated he is going with the dreaded RBBC or “hot hand” approach if Powell takes the lead roll he might be a better add than any handcuff.

      Here’s to the always injured Murray and McFadden returning sooner than later as I own them both as well.

      • iMP says:
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        @Murph, Thanks for the thoughts.
        You are right our league doesn’t have handcuffs, whether or not that should be the case. Half the owners aren’t even carrying 4 RBs. Many won’t draft their first until the 3rd or 4th round of the draft (3WR, PPR with bonuses that help WRs and QBs more). I think they are worried they can’t insure their studs with a handcuff and with everyone going RB light it allows others to wait during the draft and have something usable on the wire. I guess this is the logic of their seemingly illogical RB play. An RB guy like Sky would probably hate my league (or love it as he could go yin to their yang).

        • Murph says:
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          @iMP,
          I feel your pain I mistakenly joined a league with a 5 man bench it put way too much favor in luck of the draft rather than the ability to work the waiver wire so frustrating…I’m a RB guy too but that set up doesn’t favor them at all sounds like collusion to me time for a new league manager haha

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Tate has been hurt all year. He shouldn’t be added period, regardless of handcuff or no.

      Thanks for the idea. At the very least, I want to do something about how I view certain moves, especially after this year. For example, I’m not a handcuff guy. Never have been, never will be unless it’s clear that both are viable options. For example, drafting Spiller/Tate (injury derailed his value this year) made sense to me this year. But some people handcuff themselves to a rock on their bench like say Taiwan Jones or Mike Goodson. I get DMC is an injury risk but look how that turned out? When a guy doesn’t have a clear cut role in the offense, he shouldn’t be draft period, in my eyes. Anyways, I think you got a sneak preview!

      • Murph says:
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        @Sky,

        One thing to add if there ever is a 101 article

        Werkly Site Projections for players in espn CBS yahoo or whatever site used is usually composed of very little information usually matchup and a players previous performance and rarely changes from Tuesday to Sunday. FFB team owners should dig a little deeper to find who their true starters should be.

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          @Murph, Oh agreed. I’ve won as many weeks as lost when I was trailing based on the ‘projections’ for the week. They’re fluff put out there to make people feel good or bad about themselves. Beat the league leader last week who was projected to beat me by 40 points. Won by 20. Big whatevs to projections.

  10. hotrod says:
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    Do we start Gresham or Hernandez this weekend?? Hernandez normally a no-brainer, but is his snap-count limited? Gresham is pretty safe, but Hernandez could go nutz??

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I’d lean towards Hernandez until I hear more news come Sunday about how limited he’ll be. My understanding was they were holding him out this last week knowing he’d play vs the Jets. His role might’ve just expanded.

      • hotrod says:
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        @Sky,

        Hernandez plays Thursday night…Assuming he goes, you roll with him on Thursday night? I think he could be huge if not too limited now that Gronk out.

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          @hotrod, Yeah, sorry for the mispeak. If he’s healthy, he’s facing a team that gives up the 6th most fantasy points to opposing TEs. Gresham’s matchup is good but he’s just not involved enough in his own offense to be counted on like a Pats TE could be when healthy.

        • Murph says:
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          @hotrod,

          A limited Hernandez playing 60% of snaps still has higher upside than Gresham playing 100% of snaps.

  11. Johnny Hammersticks says:
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    Need help with a #2 RB, my choices are

    marcel reece
    Sjax
    Leshoure
    Hillman
    Vick Ballard
    or whoever that dude on Jax is

    thoughts? stick with hot hand reece?

    thanks mang!

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Reece has the best set up this week and has performed well enough to be started over those other guys. Go Reece.

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