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So, if you guys and gals didn’t know, our podcast last week didn’t happen. Tehol, Jen, Kevin, Zach, and myself all recorded what was basically the best podcast ever know in the history of the entire universe, but technology conspired against us and the files came to be just static and a couple grunts by Tehol. Which, to be honest, is kinda how he picks up women. Don’t ask me how I know, I just do. We did cover this in the latest podcast, which actually did record (yay!) which will be released later today, but I did want to cover something that we tried to on the aforementioned “pod that was lost in time”. And that was the Razzball Football RCLs. And as the title states, I did have a quick question. Actually, they are probably a few questions I want to ask, but the main one that branches out into the others (tree metaphors, woooooo) is basically this: What changes would you like to see next year?

We obviously go by a half-PPR format, and everything else is pretty vanilla when it comes right down to it. We don’t do anything exotic, just a normal flex, 12 teams, standard scoring, etc., but I think you could have called half-PPR “exotic” five years ago, and now “standard” scoring seems to be a thing of the past. Times are a changin’, as the song says, and I have the feeling that what we know as a “standard league” today is not necessarily what we should have moving forward. I am very open into looking at new ideas and suggestions from the Razz community and what you’d like to see. We just had a fun post on 2QB Leagues and 6-point TDs… Is that something you might like? What about getting rid of the kickers? (An actual question that was asked during the podcast that shall never exist ever again.) Or maybe start making the official RCLs include the IDP element? I’d love to be progressive with the RCLs, but I could use a little help. What would you guys like to see? What do you want to play? Let me know in the comment section below!

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  1. RotoLance

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    I think FAAB would be the way to go if we were going to change anything. Fantasy football is not particularly fair otherwise.

    I removed kickers from my home league like 8 years ago. As far as 2QB, my home league went to 1QB 1 superflex two years ago and it worked well, however, it’s a 10 team league. That’s important here. In a 10 team league we can all fairly safely own at least 3 QBs which means we can start 2 QBs throughout the byes. While I think 2 QBs works fine for larger leagues, I think it’s ultimately perfect for 10 teams, especially in more casual leagues. Which is to say I wouldn’t want to use 2QB in a league larger than 10 except in a highly skilled league. Frankly, football RCLs are fairly competitive but they are still somewhat casual. Unlike baseball RCLs, in my opinion. Also my home league is an auction so we don’t have to worry about QB runs or not knowing where QBs will be drafted or anything like that. Works way better.

    Speaking of 10 team leagues, that’s one possible change. 10 team leagues but with deeper starting rosters so the league isn’t actually shallow. That’s probably not something you are considering though. What’s good about more starting slots is I think the more you have the more it becomes about skill.

    • Jensen says:
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      @RotoLance: I think using FAAB and removing Kickers are two great steps in the right direction. Regarding FAAB; it make me crazy when a team loses 3 of the first 4 games of the season, gets first priority in free agents for 3 weeks, and voila, they have a great team. I’m sure anyone who has every played fantasy football has been in this situation and it’s easily solved. FAAB is a wonderful way to live life. As for kickers, they are literally all the same. No offense to those guys but they are about as interesting as watching grass grow. The number 1 kicker (Gostkowski) scored 2.625 points per game more than the number 12 kicker (Nugent). That is basically a non-factor when you have teams scoring well over 100 points per week. Just take kickers out, fantasy shouldn’t be determined by who’s kicker got a chance to kick a 40 yrd FG at the end of the game. Chances are that kickers will hardly ever decide a fantasy match-up, but there is no reason to even make it a possibility. Remove as much of the random chance aspect as you can from football.

      • RotoLance

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        @Jensen: Technically I think RCLs don’t use “inverse order of standings” waivers but instead I think they might be assigned relative to draft order and then only change as a result of claims.

        Both settings are frustrating. The RCL setting discourages people from making moves by encouraging them to “save” their waiver priority. Silly. As a league commish you want your league to be active.

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          @RotoLance: not only that the “rotating” waiver system, the worst thing i can think of it does, is benefit the teams that are so healthy they DON’T need to use it early in the year at all, then later in the year (when we know the MOST about real life teams and winning is most important, since the sample size left is small) they have the highest claims. the problem here being that there is no small correlation between the least injured teams and the best teams, so what really goes on is that the best teams, in the last few weeks of the year end of being able to waiver the best players available, RIGHT WHEN the lesser teams (often made lesser from injuries) need help the most to compete.

    • Jay

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      @RotoLance: I am open to discussing FAAB, but one thing to think about: The length of the draft. Right now, a standard draft takes about one hour and 15 minutes, plus or minus 15. While I’m open to change, I’m always going to go for what’s better for the middle.

      And team sizes are pretty non-negotiable. All RCLs across all sports here at Razzball go by 12 teams, and I doubt that will ever change.

      • RotoLance

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        @Jay: You got yourself confused. FAAB isn’t an auction and doesn’t affect the length of the draft. It’s a waivers alternative.

        :)

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @RotoLance: You’re right, I did! Yeah, FAAB for waivers is something I like. Let me know what the common budgets are if you can, I’m assuming it’s 100 bucks?

          • Jensen says:
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            @Jay: @For who, for what?: You’re getting the two best players in the trade. Make it. @Jay: $100 is typical. I find the larger you make the budget the harder it is to figure out what a reasonable bid is.

            • Jay

              Jay says:
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              @Jensen: Does it change for 10-team and 12-team leagues at all?

  2. Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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    SOB! re: lost podcast.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Aubrey Plaza’s Pillow: Yeah, we’ll have to put your questions on hold until we get Kevin back. TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHH

  3. Scott says:
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    Defensive scoring needs slight tweaks.
    Right now, you technically get 8 pts for a defensive TD. 2 for the fumble/interception and 6 for the TD. Make the TD 4 pts, and it should be more fair. I’ve made this the case in my work league and it has worked out well.

    • RotoLance

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      @Scott: Agreed. My league uses 3 pt D/ST TDs. My thing with them is they are just so hard to predict to have so much riding on them.

    • Jay

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      @Scott: Yeah, I do like the idea of changed the defensive stats a bit. This is something I’ll take note of.

  4. Scott says:
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    I like the IDP element. I’ve been fine with having separate IDP leagues, but making it “standard” would be pretty awesome too. Plus, that would mean regular IDP articles, and I can never get enough Razz!

    • Jay

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      @Scott: Yeah, I’m only hesitant because our great IDP writer, Kevin, is concentrating on family, and he was a top-3 ranker for the format for over three years. Hard to replace that, and I haven’t found anyone qualified enough to even broach the subject for new content. It’s something I’m interested in, but I probably couldn’t make the change for all leagues until we get a qualified writer for that slot.

      • For an Armenianless Vacation Come to Akron says:
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        @Jay: i’d just have IDP specific leagues set aside, you guys used to have i believe 2 with JFOH (or maybe only one was with him)

  5. Chris says:
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    You should just really spice it up and make it 3 QB, 5 IDP, 2 DST, and 4 K per team. and 1 Flex

    • Jay

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      @Chris: I dunno man, I think maybe 8 K and 4 DST is the way to go…

  6. Schizer says:
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    Once you use IDP’s, you’ll never want to go back to team defenses. I’ve found the best lineup to be 1 DL, 2 LBs, 2 DBs. If you really want to get crazy you can add a Punter too! I’d definitely be down to join an IDP RCL.

    I feel like 1 point PPR is quickly becoming the standard with the way the game has gone.

    I think the best setup is QB, RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR FLEX, 1 RB/WR/TE FLEX, K, IDPs.

    • Jay

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      @Schizer: Yeah, I agree. We did seperated IDP leagues last season, which was a lot of fun. I hosted one, and loved the draft, and enjoyed the roster moves in-season. Totally adds a great element.

  7. Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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    have a draft tonight, were the MIN players adjusted in the PPR top 200?

      • Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey says:
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        @Jay: rankings is all i need, i’ll just search all MIN players, and adjust each one’s name to match that of a guy next to him in current rankings.

  8. Gary says:
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    Not related to the article, but would definitely appreciate any advice. In a dynasty league where we can keep as many players as we want, but each player you keep loses a draft pick (keep one player, lose first round, keep two lose first and second). I’m sitting on a team that is pretty miserable, and was thinking about just keeping Julio with the hopes that everyone else keeps at least two players and I can nab Ezekial Elliot. This would mean dropping Greg Olsen, Keenan Allen, and Jonathan Stewart, but I think I might be able to pick them up in later rounds. Thoughts?

    • Jay

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      @Gary: All topics are invited all the time! Yeah, I agree with this strat. In leagues like this, only keep players that warrant those early round losses. None of those four guys you are dropping make sense. Maybe Keenan Allen in the third, but if you feel you can get Elliot there, go for it.

  9. William Hung says:
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    @Jay: Should I be targeting Arian Foster in the 5th/6th round (around 60th overall) of my 12 team 1/2 PPR draft or pass and look elsewhere?

    • Jay

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      @William Hung: Yeah, that sounds about right. I like the gamble, but not if your RBs have too much risk already, like if you have Lacy and CJ or some combo like that. I love the risk, but only if you can survive it.

      • William Hung says:
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        @Jay: Yeah, that’s the problem I have when switching gears between football and baseball – the injury risk is so much higher and it’s a lot harder to recover from it.

        I was looking at the players from the 5th round on and imo, every player with a high ceiling has some sort of injury flag.

        Some other questions:

        1. At around the 10th round (120 overall), I’m thinking of going Tajae Sharpe or Rishard Matthews – who would you roll with?
        2. I was thinking of picking Sterling Shepard as well, but he’s like 7th / 8th round value in Yahoo – that’s too high right?
        3. Buy Latavius Murry in the top 50?

        I’m thinking of going the Grey route with your player rankings and picking the best available until I have needs to fill – it has worked well for me so far… this would be my first season using your rankings

        • Jay

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          @William Hung: 1.Matthews there, but it’s closer. 2. eh, sounds about right. I have him at 87. 3. Totally. I think he’s being forgotten in drafts right now.

          And yeah, Grey’s strat works here too, but remember, your roster needs are a lot less robust, so it allows a bit more wiggle room.

  10. omar says:
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    Jay,

    12 team 1pt PPR League. Which roster would you rather roll with?

    Option 1
    WR1 – Allen Robison
    WR2 – Edelman
    RB1 – Forte
    RB2 – Woodhead
    TE – Gronk
    FLX – Duke Johnson
    BN1 – Willie Snead
    BN2 – Devanter Parker

    Option 2
    WR1 – Allen Robinson
    WR2 – Brandon Marshall
    RB1 – Zeke Elliott
    RB2 – Danny Woodhead
    TE – Waiver Wire best available based on matchups / Tyler Eifert once he returns
    FLX – Donte Moncrief
    BN1 – Duke Johnson
    BN2 – Devante Parker

    Thanks!

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @omar: Option 1. Love Edelman, Woodhead, and Gronk in that PPR format.

    • William Hung says:
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      @omar: 12 teams and you have both Gronk AND A-Rob????

      That’s incredible

  11. For who, for what? says:
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    Do you make this trade- ppr. IR slot
    Giving up: Alfred Morris, Dorsett, john brown, Ladarius green
    Getting: Crowell, amari cooper, eifert

    He has zeke, te depth, and needs wr depth.
    Cooper would solidify my starting wrs wth Marshall and ty. Coleman on the bench.
    I’m high on John brown but you make this trade right?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @For who, for what?: Yes, I do that trade. Love the fact that you are getting Cooper and Eifert here.

  12. William Hung says:
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    @Jay: Your comment above about RB risk has stuck with me all day – do you do a post that Grey has similar to his pitching pairings? For example, highlighting certain RB pairings to balance this risk. Like for example, Le’Veon and Jamaal Charles are both 2nd round values right now, and then we also have Arian Foster during the 5/6 rounds – Like if you go Le’Veon or Charles early or if you do indeed have Lacy and CJ like your example above, who are some later targets (R7-10) I should be looking at other than handcuffs?

    • Jay

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      @William Hung: Hmm, this is an interesting idea… something I actually never thought about. I think I might do this next season since a lot of drafts are about done at this point. But any specific questions (I know you’ve done a few) are always welcome for this year!

      • William Hung says:
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        @Jay: Another thing I’ve been looking for is a Running Back site similar to what Closermonkey does for closers

        Like the Ravens RB situation is a mess, and nobody can seem to agree on who is backing up Rawls (if I end up with him in the 4th/5th round, I have no idea who to handcuff him with) – Prossie or perpetual hype machine Michael?

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @William Hung: Right, we’ll actually have a handcuff series again this year, giving you the low-down on all the backup RBs and what their situations are. And this question is better suited for Tehol, but I’m sorta leaning Michael, but I really hate doing it…

  13. William Hung says:
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    @Jay: What are your thoughts on the following players and where they are going in most drafts? I’m debating whether or not to draft them at their current rounds or jumping round and stashing them:

    1. Le’Veon Bell (2nd Round)
    2. Jamaal Charles (2nd Round)
    3. Josh Gordon (8th Round)
    4. Tom Brady (7th Round)

    I am giving both Bell and Gordon long looks because their ceilings are #1 at their positions. Basically, is it smart for me get 2 players who are going to be playing 11-12 games at most or should I just target 1 of them?

    • Jay

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      @William Hung: I’m okay with all of them… but maybe Charles in the third round, and Brady is questionable. I think there are better options so you don’t have to carry two QBs. I’d say find a balance to your second question. Decide on one of those guys. Otherwise, if you start like, 0-4 before you get them, your season is already on life support.

      • William Hung says:
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        @Jay: Thanks!

        With regards to TE, outside of Gronk who is his own tier, who are you targeting if you miss out on Olsen, Reed, and Walker?

        My buddy is saying that Cameron might be a good last pick since Gase loves the TE, and Virgil Green has been getting some sleeper love in other sites. I have a feeling TE this year is going to be like the C position in baseball – where outside of the top 2-3 guys, everyone else is clumped together or a dumpster fire

        • Jay

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          @William Hung: Olsen actually. I have Reed ranked second, and I think he’ll be fine, but I think there’s less risk with Olsen. Walker third there. Yeah, I like both Cameron and Green, both of which you can get later. I’m not too worried about TEs this year… I’ve been getting Gates really late too.

          • William Hung says:
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            @Jay: If I have a late pick, then I can probably get Olsen in the 4th, but if I have an early pick then I’m looking at him in the 3rd cause I’ll probably not be able to get him by the time I get to pick again in the 4th

            I hate 12 team leagues…

            • Jay

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              @William Hung: Yeah, but to be fair, 10-team leagues have a tendency to look like all-star teams… it’s nice to have to build a good bench, have some depth, etc.

  14. William Hung says:
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    @Jay: I’ve run a few mocks and I find myself stuck with getting a QB late in the draft.

    Round 3 – where I may target Aaron Rodgers, I am finding myself going LeSean McCoy
    Round 4 – where I may target Russell Wilson, I am finding myself going Randall Cobb
    Round 5 – I’m typically going Jarvis Landry / Greg Olsen

    Then I get into a tier where it’s Eli Manning / Carson Palmer and I go “meh”

    I then end up with Tyrod Taylor / Derrick Carr and then maybe going Tannehill as my last bench spot. Is QB a position to invest early on or is my strategy of going late the right one and making sure I have solid RBs / WRs?

    Pass TDs are 4 points and the roster of my league is as:
    QB
    WR x3
    RB x2
    TE
    W/R/T
    K
    DEF

    • Jay

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      @William Hung: I mean, Tyrod or Carr isn’t terrible, especially in those mocks, I’d honestly take McCoy and Cobb and Landry in those spots. I usually advocate waiting on QBs, especially in this type of format.

      • William Hung says:
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        @Jay: Someone on this site recommends Tannehill as a good backup – are you a believer in Gase getting the best out of him? I might target a QB late in my league if I can find a good 2nd QB to hedge

        • Jay

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          @William Hung: Yeah, I think Gase can do some stuff with him, he’s a solid mid-tier guy, and I think Miami will be improved a bit this season. I would say in a format like this, only one QB is needed. You usually don’t want to carry two.

  15. William Hung says:
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    @Jay: I’ve read some places where Spencer Ware is now a 6th/7th round pick – do you agree? And if so, how far does Jamaal Charles now fall? After doing a few more mocks, I’ve come to realize that I will be stocking up on RBs and WRs early with Olsen sandwiched between them in the 3rd round. Then targeting Derek Carr or Tyrod around the 10th / 11th round – before this latest news on Charles, I personally had Ware 11/12 round since that’s where Yahoo kind of had him. Hopefully Yahoo doesn’t update their player rankings and he can somehow sneak on to my team that late.

    I’m also trying hard to not pick any player over the age of 30, so I’ve written off Adrian Peterson, Matt Forte, and Gore off my draft board unless I can get them 1-2 rounds later than their ADP

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