Week 4 of preseason has a lot of starters on the sidelines, but they still have to get some bodies out there to give a “show” to all those people that paid full regular season prices.

Michael Bush: What did seem like a thumb injury that wouldn’t keep him out of the season opener is now a fracture that could keep him out at least a month.  Darren McFadden’s value really shoots up, but I do think Bush will come back and play well and could hurt whatever McFadden has built up in this next month.

Montario Hardesty: He finally got into a preseason game, had some nice runs, got into the endzone, and just looked like an every down kinda back. And as I was watching this I was also drafting my Razzball Commenter League team and decided to grab him.  Queue sad trombone; he then went and hurt his knee again.  Well, not the same knee, but he was on crutches after the game.  This should help Jerome Harrison’s cause, but James Davis had a nice final preseason game so he needs to join the muddled Browns RB conversation.

Beanie Wells: He hurt his knee last night.  This has been a bad preseason for my man Beanie.  He’s having trouble hanging onto the ball and now this.  It hurts me deep in the gut, but he needs to be dropped a bit on draft sheets.  And Tim Hightower needs to be boosted. And hobbled.

Ahmad Bradshaw: He has semi-officially won the starting job in New York and he looks healthy as well.  Jacobs should still be the goal line back, but unless Bradshaw gets hurt I don’t see Jacobs racking up much yardage.  Bradshaw will get receptions and the majority of the carries.  I’d take him before Jacobs in both PPR and non.

Fred Taylor: He continues to be the lead back for the Patriots.  Of course Sammy Morris and Kevin Faulk also see time, but Larry Maroney might as well take a seat in the stands.  I guess Taylor is worth grabbing, but it pains me to do so.  I very much doubt he’ll stay healthy for long.  I’m staying away from the who shituation until Maroney finds his way back to the field.

T.J. Houshmandzadeh: The Seahawks are looking to dump Housh, but his salary will make a trade tough.  They could end up releasing him all together, but nothing is imminent.  If anything happens with TJ, Mike Williams gets a big boost, and whoever else they have playing wide receiver nowadays.

Brandon Jackson: My man Evan Silva of Rotoworld alerted to me of the play of Brandon Jackson this preseason so I took a look and I can’t say that I disagree.  He has looked quicker and more decisive, as if something has finally turned on for him.  Ryan Grant had a concussion this preseason and if he goes down this season Jackson looks like he will be able to do some real work.

Correll Buckhalter: Knowshon Moreno should be able to go for week 1, but he didn’t play in the final preseason game and Buckhalter did.  Bucky is worth grabbing if you don’t have a strong backup for Moreno.

Ben Roethlisberger: There were rumors that he would try to get his suspension down from 6 games to 3, even though 4 was supposed to be the least he could get away with.  So blah, blah, blah and the rumors are going away and he’ll probably serve the mandatory 4 games for groping/molestation/general douchebaggery.

Michael Crabtree: Vernon Davis called him out for not practicing and being an overall wuss-bag.  Then coach Singletary took them into the locker room and gave them a good talking too.  Now everything is peachy keeneriffic.  This is all to say, well, nothing really.  Don’t worry about it.

Kevin Smith: He was supposedly on the roster bubble, but it looks like he slid off it, then dodged some rotating nerf sticks and won a chance to backup Mo Morris who is backing up Jahvid Best.

Jeremiah Johnson: Now his foot is hurt.  Add that to Slaton’s toe and you have Chris Henry as the backup RB.  I am Bear Claw Chris Lapp; bloodkin to the grizzer that bit Jim Britcher’s ass! YOU (Jeremiah Johnson) are molesting my hunt!

Byron Leftwich: There is no official word, but Leftwich hurt his knee, well, one if his lineman did, and there is a good chance Dennis Dixon will start the season as the Steelers QB.  I don’t see a huge difference in the two as far as helping or hurting Mendy, Ward and Wallace, but Dixon does keep plays alive longer.

Eric Decker: He caught 10 passes from Tebow and Quinn in the final preseason game and this gels with how he looked out there last week.  He could be on track for a nice PPR season.

Sam Bradford: He continues to look good, going 6-6 and a TD in one series against the Ravens.  Two of those receptions went to Danny Amendola who is quickly becoming a decent flier in PPR leagues.  Bradford has the ability, but just doesn’t have the supporting cast to be fantasy worthy this season.

Jonathan Dwyer: He hadn’t looked good until last week, but now he’s had two good back to back games and is looking more like Mendenhall’s handcuff.

  1. dja says:

    who would you target if you’re owning beanie already? or would you ride it out…

  2. Doc

    Doc says:

    @dja: Well, I’m reading just this second that it doesn’t look to be too bad. I wouldn’t try to trade him. I would see if you can get Hightower if you do anything.

  3. @amarvin says:

    Feeling pretty smart for drafting Hightower late in both leagues this season and not drafting Michael Bush in my one league with a short bench (no room for injured players). Not feeling so smart about not drafting Bradshaw.

    In conclusion, bring on Week 1!

  4. tourinnc says:

    Hey Chet, would you post the rest of your commenter league team so i know who else is going to get hurt this week and I will not get them in the auction on Sunday. Thanks.

  5. Namor the Sub-Mariner says:

    GREAT info. Didn’t know about some of these.
    Please update tiers today if you can. My draft is tomorrow morning!

  6. TheEvilEmpire says:

    Just dropped Josh Morgan for Danny Amendola. Thoughts?

  7. sal says:

    @Doc: Finished up my 10 team ppr – was going for overall value with so many slots to fill..

    QB: Cutler, Kolb
    RB: AP, JCHAR, PT, Felix Jones, MB3, Leon Washington, LJ
    WR: R.White, Wes Welk, Ward, Knox, J.JonesTE: Miller
    K: who cares
    D: Cincy

    I dont know what to think of my wr’s – I was going to go with Hakeem over Ward but I ultimately decided to go with old faithful becuase I already had too much of a good thing – upside. Thoughts?

  8. TheEvilEmpire says:

    Trade just got submitted between 2 teams.

    Team 1: Trades Randy Moss to Team 2.

    Team 2: Trades Portis, Bowe, LDT, and LJ to Team 1.

    Now I’m no FF expert by any means but does this trade seem a little lopsided? A #2 WR and 3 RBS?

    Team 1 also has Roddy White. I could use some WR help. I was thinking of offering Felix Jones, Robert Meachem, and Anthony Dixon for Moss or White. Is that realistic?

    I figure it’s a better offer than Portis/Bowe/LDT/and LJ. Dixon for sure has huge upside and could be, if the preseason is any indication, the big surprise in fantasy football this year.

  9. sal says:

    @TheEvilEmpire: a lot of filler for Randy Moss. I believe you have a better offer on the table with Felix Jones, however I would still reject both. What is the size of the league? That would give a better indication of the trade value..

  10. keith says:


    Dropping Hardesty (.5 PPR league) to pick up which one (as last bench spot)? D.Brown, D. McCluster, J. Gaffney, other? Thanks!

  11. TheEvilEmpire says:

    @sal: 12 team

  12. Doc

    Doc says:

    @@amarvin: Hah, yeah. It is nice to draft this weekend, but you miss out on the good AND the bad.

    @tourinnc: Well, Hardesty is out for good so maybe that horrible luck will end there!

    @Namor the Sub-Mariner: FYI, the auction value/tiers from the last post are the most up to dat, but I will be getting Hardesty out, etc so should have new ones up tonight.

    @TheEvilEmpire: Yeah, it is. If the other team is so horrid that all those players are upgrades then it makes a little more sense, but I doubt it.

    Can you still trade with this team? Aren’t you saying the trade has been done?

    @keith: Brown

  13. TheEvilEmpire says:

    @Doc: The trade is in proposal stage right now waiting on league votes. So if the guy likes my offer better, he could simply reject the other trade and accept mine to be put forth for approval.

    Doc any chance you could check the forums and comment on my waiver pickup Q? Me love you long time.

    I’m also having some RB depth issues. Right now I have benched Maroney, Lynch, and Dixon. I was wondering if you thought there might be better waiver claims than Maroney or Lynch. I’m keeping Dixon as I think he might be a sleeper. Here’s some names that are available:

    Brandon Jackson
    Joe McKnight
    Kevin Faulk/Sammy Morris

    Reading what you said above I’m inclined to grab Jackson but I’m unsure which I should drop from Maroney/Lynch.

  14. Pepe Silvia says:

    is James Davis or Peyton Hillis worth a late pick/FA pick-up in a 12 team league now?

  15. Doc

    Doc says:

    @TheEvilEmpire: Yeah, if you could get either for that I would do it.

    McKnight isn’t going to play soon. Ryan pretty much said he’ll be deactivated on game days.

    I would lean toward Maroney since Lynch still has a slim shot at getting traded to a place he could play more. Maroney will probably always be in some kind of Belichick doghouse committee

  16. sal says:

    @Doc: a little love on the above post?

  17. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Pepe Silvia: Hillis may get more goal line work, but I like Davis as the flier or handcuff to Harrison. Both are right on the edge for 12 team leagues. I’d go Davis as long as Harrison is still not loved by Mangini.

  18. Doc

    Doc says:

    @sal: I like it! No holes to speak of and teo upside QBs should be able to help each other through the growing pains. Looks like you have good choices for your flex spots and can play the matchups. Nice work.

    @TheEvilEmpire: In PPR I’d take Amendola for sure there. Kind of apples to apples in non ppr.

  19. genghis chone says:

    PPR return yardage league: Amendola or Britt?
    Also, in a 10 team league is Charles, Forte, Best, Washington, Choice acceptable RB depth, or should I be trying to grab another solid one?

  20. Doc

    Doc says:

    @genghis chone: Depends on the points for return yards. Britt has had a horrid preseason, but has a lot more talent that Amendola, but Amendola will be returning both punts and kicks and playing #2 receiver.
    If it is PPR and 2RB I think you are ok.

  21. Rob says:


    Since Hardesty is out(does help my Harrison as a keeper status) who should I pick up to replace him. This guy will be my 4th rb or wr so he upside is more important. Choices: Mike Williams(TB), Leon Washington (seattle) or Huggins(TB)? I have Bradshaw, Knox, Wallace and Harrison on the bench so Im more looking for a breakout guy who I can add to a trade or be a bye week replacement. Thanks.

  22. Chumlee says:

    Doc, week 1 ppr league would you start Jerome Harrison or Run DMC? considering Bush is not back. What do you see out of both of them this season?

  23. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Rob: I’d go with Williams. Most breakout potential.

  24. Chumlee says:

    What about Harrison vs DMC Doc?

  25. genghis chone says:

    Thanks man. A point for every 25 return yards, so if Amendola’s the main punt and kick returner, he’ll have a 3-4 point head start on Britt every game.

  26. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Chumlee: I’m in the Harrison camp just because Bush will return and Hardesty won’t. I do worry that james Davis will get time, but I like Harrison’s ability.

    @genghis chone: I think you answered your question!

  27. Jeff says:

    Who do you like 3rd in a league where all TD’s are 6pts, 1 pt/50 yds passing, 1 pt 20 yds/rushing or receiving and -2 pts per fumble or int?

    Was thinking MJD before his knee issues, now I’m not sure who to take.

    Do I go with Rice or Gore, or reach for Andre Johnson or one of the top QB’s?

  28. dja says:

    hey doc, apologies for the double post, if you do read older threads..

    anyway, drafted this team in my 12-team h2h serpentine draft. pass td’s worth 6 pts (but INT worth -2). i had 11th pick.

    QB cutler [6] (thought about taking flacco over him since int’s are -2. ultimately went cutler. right decision?)

    RB mendenhall [1] (wanted rodgers or brees, but they were taken in the 2 picks directly before mine)
    RB ryan matthews [2] (took him over deangelo and greene. hopefully a good decision?)
    WR greg jennings [3] (was eying mighty JC who was still on the board, but was taken the pick before this. could have taken brandon marshall instead, but went non-headcase)
    WR hakeem nicks [5]
    RB/WR knowshon [4]
    TE kellen winslow [8] (super pissed: miller had just been sniped from me, and then cooley was taken the pick directly before this)
    DEF saints [14]
    K have to drop someone for a kicker before the season starts (right? have you ever gone sans-kicker opening week in hope that your guys gain value?)

    WR johnny knox [7] (really pissed here. zach miller was taken the pick directly before mine)
    RB montario hardesty [9] (looks like i’ll be dropping him…
    RB mcfadden [10]
    RB larry johnson [13]
    WR derrick mason [11] (really wanted jacoby jones or gaffney here, but both were taken in the 6 picks before me)
    WR sidney rice [12](our league has an IR spot, so i’m keeping him there unless one of my studs gets injured)
    QB garrard [15]

    what do you think?

    someone has already offered me miles austin and rape-less-berger for matthews. he also has jacoby jones, who i wanted… should i come up with an offer? something to think about, or horrible idea?

  29. Doc

    Doc says:

    @dja: I like it. All your decisions seem right on, which is tough during a draft. I wouldn’t do that trade. Leaves you too weak at RB. I don’t see anything pressing to trade for right now.

    I would drop Hardesty for a kicker. No reason not to get your points out of him.

  30. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Jeff: I like Rice there.

  31. nick m. says:

    With T.J. Housh possibly on the outs, who do you like more: Branch, Williams, or Butler? PPR leagues…

  32. Doc

    Doc says:

    @nick m.: I suppose Branch in PPR, but he is pretty injury prone. I think Williams has the most upside. But if Housh is gone, VJax will probably be in Seattle.

  33. Mr2Bits says:

    Doc : Do you have up-to-date player ranking with injuries being in consideration?

  34. MJD Took A Knee says:

    Non-PPR 12team

    SJ & Charles at RB
    AJ & Colston at WR
    Caddy in FLEX

    (WR) Bench : Knox, (TB) Williams, Gaffney
    Big Ben & Donald Brown

    I feel I have low Depth at Rb with Caddy as my RB3. Should I drop Brown and pick up Huggins to lock up TB RB or maybe Hillis. Or just hold for now. Not sure if I could drop one of the bench WR.

    Kareem Huggins
    Peyton Hillis

  35. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Mr2Bits: Working on it.

  36. Da'Mon says:

    Just tried registering for the forums, and I must be an idiot because I can’t get past the anti-bot test. I tried to complete the sentence “razzball.com is dedicated to fantasy…” with “sports”, “news”, “advice”, “strategy”, “baseball”, “football”, and everything else I can think of. What is razzball dedicated to?!?!

  37. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Da’Mon: hah, others have had the same problem. It’s “baseball”

  38. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Da’Mon: oh wait, you said that. Hmm.

  39. Da'Mon says:

    Well I just tried baseball again, and it worked. Maybe i’m an even bigger idiot and can’t spell baseball correctly. Thanks!

  40. Doc

    Doc says:

    @MJD Took A Knee: I’d hold. Caddy is the guy until he gets hurt. If Addai gets hurt Brown has much more upside than huggins.

  41. MJD Took A Knee says:

    Thanks Doc. It’s a little sad that it’s when not if Caddy gets hurt=(

  42. Jeff says:

    12 team league picking in the 3 spot with the settings I listed above. Would you target a QB with either of those picks or should I grab WR/WR or RB/WR?

  43. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Jeff: I would only grab a QB early if one fell past his ADP. If you take Rice first I would look to get a WR next, but be ready for an RB with value.

  44. LMack says:

    Took both Beanie and Hardesty in my RCL draft the other night.

  45. Doc

    Doc says:

    @LMack: Don’t give up on Beanie just yet. Give up on Hardesty!

  46. Commish Cauda says:

    12-team, 0.5ppr, limited keeper league, (keep one from previous year for only one year; 1st and 2nd round picks cannot be kept)

    Ray Rice, Miles Austin, Charles and Mendenhall were kept. I kept LeSean McCoy in the 5th.

    My draft was last night. I had the 5th pick. I took Gore over AJ. WRs then flew off the board, and even though Ryan Matthews was there for me in the 2nd, I felt I had to take DeSean Jackson, the only Top 10 WR left.

    But guess what? Ryan Matthews was there for me in the 3rd…which is the first round players can be kept for 2011…so I couldn’t resist, (I can now keep Matthews in 2011 for a 2nd round pick).

    I ended up with the following team:

    QB: Kolb
    RB: Gore, Matthews
    WR: Jackson, Mason, Meachem
    TE: Findley

    Bench: McCoy, Chester Taylor, Anthony Dixon, Mike Williams (TB), Legedu Naanee, Louis Murphy

    If I knew Matthews would fall to me, I would’ve taken AJ over Gore and then everything would be perfect. But instead, my WRs are questionable at best. I’m also just became an Eagle fan…

    QUESTION: Do you think I should trade Gore for a stud WR like Miles, or are my WR corps good enough? Or maybe try to move McCoy for a #2 WR once he stars off the season well?



  47. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Commish Cauda: I could see shopping RBs for WRs. I really like McCoy in PPR so you might not be able to get the right value for him since he fell. Gore would probably be the guy, but I hate letting him go for anyone other than AJ. Check out the other teams rosters and see what might work, but I would wait for the most part. Meachem has had some injury problems. I could see starting Williams over him early.

  48. Doc

    Doc says:

    It’s looking like Housh is probably done in Seattle and Mike Williams is the #2. He’s worth a flier in deep leagues, but there is a chance VJax ends up in Seattle so don’t drop anyone you like.

  49. Commish Cauda says:

    @Doc: Thanks. Keep in mind I kept McCoy in the 5th, I didn’t draft him there. Even though it’s only a 0.5ppr and not a full ppr, he still would’ve easily gone in the 3rd, if not sooner.

  50. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Commish Cauda: Oh, right. That makes more sense.

  51. Greg says:

    @Doc – Nice piece in the NYT… I read it. I’ll give you cred u stick to the guns with your players….but Cutler is gonna bury you :) Man you made it big time….your in national papers….i’m a little bit jealous!

    So Doc gun to your head week 1 starter- u can only pick one! PPR!

    Derrick Mason at JETS
    Tim Hightower at STL
    Santana Moss at WAS

    I’m holding on with Hightower… I need your moral support here DOC

    BANG!!! BANG!!! gun went off…..what was the answer

  52. Buge Hoobs says:

    In a 10 team PPR redraft league, how important do you think it is to handcuff my #1 pick Gore with Westbrook? Another manager is offering me WB and Dustin Keller for Zach Miller.

    My other RB’s include JCahrles, JBest, CJSpiller, DSproles and CBuckhalter and my back up TE is HMiller.

    At first I don’t like the offer, but I’m relatively new to Fantasy Football, so I don’t really know that much about the importance of handcuffing. If it is valuable, then I’ll counteroffer with a different package.

  53. Abe says:

    Doc – just drafted last night – 12 team, standard settings:
    QB – Jay Cutler
    WR – Andre Johnson
    WR – Jeremy Maclin
    RB – Rashard Mendenhall
    RB – Jamaal Charles
    TE – Jermichael Finley
    Flex – Jahvid Best
    Bench – Gaffney, Carson Palmer, Michael Bush, Jacoby Jones

    I’m worried about Cutler (and Palmer as a backup) – would you package him with with Gaffney for a more reliable QB?

  54. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Greg: Who is Moss playing? I’m probably going Hightower in ppr.

  55. Greg says:

    @DOC – Moss has Dallas…. I’m on the same page as you…hightower it is.

  56. Dominic says:

    I am in a first year dynasty league and we start 11 IDPs with these stat categories:

    Tackle Solo 2
    Tackle Assist 1
    Sack 10
    Interception 5
    Fumble Force 3
    Fumble Recovery 4
    Defensive Touchdown 6
    Safety 6
    Pass Defended 4
    Block Kick 5

    Since these points are worth so much would you reach and pick someone like Patrick Willis or Jon Beason in a early round because it is a dynasty league? Or do you wait until later?

  57. timsti says:

    @Doc: 12tm .5 ppr. Do you like Crayton or M.Williams(sea) over Cotchery or Britt for bench/upside depth?

  58. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Dominic: I’m not going to try to BS an answer here. My IDP skills are rudimentary.

    @timsti: I think Crayton will be #3 so I’m holding off on him, but Williams could be the #1, BUT I’m waiting a day or so to see what happens with VJax before I drop anyone too interesting for him.

  59. Jack says:

    1 PPR league. Considering picking up Kareem Huggins or Jacoby Jones from the waiver wire, but can’t seem to find a guy to drop for him. I’m basically here to have you confirm that I should just stand pat, but I want to be sure. I’ll list all my RBs and WRs to give you an idea of my depth at each position, and can you tell me if you’d drop anyone for Huggins or Jones?

    5 RBs: Gore, Charles, Foster, Bradshaw, McFadden
    6 WRs: Wayne, Bowe, Nicks, Meachem, Hester, Gaffney

    Thanks, Doc!

  60. Jack says:

    @Jack: And I just noticed somebody dropped Steve Slaton…would you drop anyone of those guys (probably Hester or Gaffney) and grab Foster’s handcuff?

  61. John says:

    If you haven’t seen yet Hardesty tore his ACL in yesterdays game

  62. LMack says:

    @Doc: Haha I haven’t lost all hope. I did send Hardesty packing for Fred Taylor though. Yikes.

  63. BearsRule says:

    Derek Anderson or Chad Henne as a backup. 5 per TD, 1 per 30 passing yards?

  64. DANgerous says:


    Im starting to get the whole did my draft a few weeks ago, and felt good, but now week 1 is taking forever to get here self conscious feeling in my stomach! Heres my team ESPN basic scoring, 10 teams,


    someone is my league has Drew Breeeeeezzzzz on the block, and is willing to take Ryan,Mendinhal, and Shanko for Breeeeeezzz and Gates, should i pull the trigger? and would you drop any of the said recievers above for TJ Housh? thanks yours truly

  65. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Jack: Meachem has had a poor training camp with injuries. I could see dropping him for either, depending on need. I like Huggins/Jones better than Slaton right now. Turf toe can linger so i would wait until he looks healthy to pick him up as a handcuff.

    @BearsRule: Henne

    @DANgerous: How in the heck did you get AP, RICE, MENDY, and FOSTER! 4 team league!? I would do that trade as long as you start 2 RBs with a flex. Skankho to Gates is a big step up and I like Mendy more than Brees, but he’s a big step up from Ryan.

    Stay away from Housh for now.

  66. Jack says:

    @Doc: Yeah, Meachem seems like even if he is healthy it’ll be hard to “guess” when he’ll have big games, considering Colston, Henderson, and Moore have to get looks too. I decided to drop Meachem for Legedu Naanee over Jacoby actually. You like Naanee’s potential in that Charger offense?

  67. Greg says:

    @Jack – I like Naanee a good deal…I have him on my roster as well….though I am troubled by the trade for Crayton….Doc what is ur read on this? very curious….

  68. DANgerous says:

    well its 10 team league and 2 keepers, I drafted rice late last season,mendy was my 1st rd pick 7th choice. Got Foster a little early,5th round. A lot of the teams went qb early,guy who has brees had Arod as a keeper,dumby didn’t know have same bye weeks,waste of 1st rd pick. So do you like mendy over Foster? Thanks for advice n awesome work

  69. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Jack: I do, but it is tough to read how things will break down there. I’m still in Jones’ corner.

    @Greg: I like him as the #2, but Crayton could cut into his production, but for the most part i see Crayton as the #3.

    @DANgerous: Yeah, Mendy should be the every down back. Eventually Slaton will be the third down guy when his toe heels up.

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