So we’ve gone through picks 1-4 and 5-8 and now we tackle 9-12.  I’ve always liked being able to grab two players close to back to back in the first and second rounds and we’ll see how that turns out here.  Sadly our ADP is going all bat poo crazy so our guide is a little askew from the last two (yeah, I should have taken a screen shot).  Anyway, we are using FFC again.  Let’s see what we have.

1st round 9-12 ADP has Moss, Jackson, Wayne, Calvin Johnson while I have a bunch of running backs in that range, Mendy, JC Superstar, Greene, and Mathews, but Steven Jackson falling to this area is a boon.  His TD totals kept him from being a top tier RB last season, but I see that number rising.  Some people are worried about his back which is why his ADP seems to be slipping a little.  He played through the back problems last season and he worked extra hard to strengthen it during the off season. I like him here.

2nd round picks are 13-16, Brees, Austin, Mathews, and Mendy.  The upside of Mendy, JC, Greene and Matthews  (all still on the board) is easily top 10. I usually go into this draft slot with an idea that I could possibly grab two top tier wide receivers or at least a RB/WR, but even though many ‘perts lament the plight of the second tier running back, I actually feel pretty good about them.  Yes, they do have question marks, but running backs inherently have question marks.  If we go RB/RB our #1 receiver won’t come until picks 33-36.  What to do? What to do? I’m going with Rashard Mendenhall.  I believe he is the safest/highest upside back available and I love him as a #2 pick.

The 3rd round gives us picks 33-36, Schaub, Romo, McCoy, and The Steve Smiths.  I NEED a wide receiver!  And I’m going with Steve Smith, no, Steve Smith, not Steve Smith!  The Panthers are a run first and second team, but Smith is the guy and Matt Moore knows where his passing bread and butter is served.  Smith was hurt by Delhomme’s bad play last season and can be a top tier receiver again.

The 4th round 37-40 has a bunch of players I am interested in like Best, Wells, Foster, Clark, Forte, Crabtree, Gates, Rivers, Finley, Stewart, Bowe, Addai, Brown, Moreno, VD, Nicks and MSW that all probably won’t get back to me again at 57-60.  I have 2 RBs and 1 WR.  I want another high upside receiver, but I can pick anyone and fill in a starter slot.  Are you kidding me?!  Too many choices!  If this was PPR I would be looking really hard at Best, but in non-PPR I’m looking hard at Beanie and Arian.  My rankings have Beanie ahead of Arian right now, but it is very close.  This is where I have 90 seconds to make a choice and I go with my gut, Arian Foster.  I may write a post on this, but the draft is going! Onto the next round!

Round 5, picks 57-60, Witten, Garcon, Harvin, and Ward are there.  My starting RBs are secured and now I really need a WR.  I’m going with the old reliable, Hines Ward. He was the 16th overall fantasy receiver last season and now he doesn’t have Holmes on the other side.  I like Wallace a lot, but he is still young and Ward will get his.

Round 6 and picks 61-64 with a whole lotta picks between now and our next turn.  But I’m not going to list them all because I know who I have to choose from.  Kevin Kolb, Jay Cutler, and Joe Flacco are all in this next round and are all on my QB Christmas list.  Even with their poor preseasons I have faith in both Kolb and Cutler.  Should I?  Sure.  This is preseason.  Don’t read too much into it.  I have taken Cutler in each of my draft position posts and I’m not going to change things now.  He looks like a prick and he’s dating a girl from The Hills, what’s not to love? (eye rolling emoticon).

Round 7 and picks 81-84 are Daniels, Favre, Dez Bryant, and Housh.  Bryant’s stock is rising since Roy Williams has an injury and Bryant is back to practicing, but I’m not fully on board in the 7th round.  Housh in non-ppr is non-good.  So we are going to have to take a look further down the ADP scale.  I have been targeting Robert Meachem around these parts, but he is limited by a toe injury and it’s giving a lot more looks to Henderson and Moore.  I need a WR to fill out my starters, but the upside guys are pretty much gone. What I’m seeing isn’t awe inspiring.  I am a big fan of Derick Mason for his stability, but I already have the extra-stable Ward.  Bernard Berrian is available, but do I really want him starting? Jacoby Jones and Zach Miller, two of “my guys,” are far enough down that I can wait on them.  So I’m going to bite the bullet and go with Bernard Berrian.  Favre has some weird magic Vicodin he is slipping himself and his receivers.  We’ll see if he can keep scoring some.

Round 8 has picks 85-88 and pretty much the same shituation as last round.  Cadillac and Portis are here and I do not want either.  I would rather have their craptastic backups in the last round than them here. So I’m going to make sure I get my man Zach Miller.  Yes, his ADP goes into round 9, but I’ve seen him go earlier.  I think I’ll  play it safe.

Round 9 and we are at picks 105-108.  It’s time to start looking at backup RBs and there are a few right here, including, Hightower, McFadden, F. Jackson, and Hardesty.  In non-PPR these guys aren’t quite as tempting as in PPR so I’m going with the highest risk, highest reward guy in Hardesty.  If I felt RBs were a weakness I would go with someone with a better track record, but I feel pretty good with my guys and Hardesty is still an unknown.  Jerome Harrison had a shot to really take a hold on the RB spot, but he didn’t and now Hardesty will get his shot at the job.  If he wins it, I get good value here.

The 10th Round looks like a good spot to look for a backup QB with picks 109-112.  Donovan McNabb and Ben Roethlisberger are both here.  I love McNabb’s ability to avoid interceptions and I’m not as down on him as some.  Yes, the Indigenous Peoples of Washington DC have pretty poor receivers, but Moss and Cooley aren’t the dregs of society and McNabb has done well with less than good receivers before (albeit in a pass first offense).  But Big Ben does look like an elite QB, or at least close to being one.  And he will be on a mission to make up for lost ground.  In this battle I am a little worried about Big Ben raping and pillaging the Indigenous People, so I’ll grab him before he does any damage.

The 11th round and picks 129-132 have Jacoby Jones, Rice, Gaffney, and McGahee.  I think Rice will help you in the playoffs, but with such a small bench I just don’t want to clog up a spot with an injured player.  If you have an IR position I’d grab him, but I’m going with Jacoby Jones here.

The 12th round and picks 133-136 are here.  Like I’ve said before, at this point in the draft you grab guys you like.  You will probably drop these guys for more stable production at some point, but upside is what you want here. And when you think of upside, you think of Larry Johnson!  Well, upside doesn’t have to be in the ability of the player, it can be in the probability of opportunity, or as I like to call it for short, POO.

The 13th round and picks 153-156 usher Legedu Naanee onto my team. He has found his way onto my teams often.  I really like Malcolm Floyd, but I also haven’t been finding him on my draft radar for some reason.  Naanee has a shot at being a decent late round flier.

The 14th round and picks 157-160 will be Kareem Huggins again.  Derick Ward is officially a ward of the state, unless I don’t understand the meaning of that phrase.  But Ward was cut and Huggins is the backup.  I don’t trust Caddy’s engineer.

The 15/16th rounds — Kicker and Defense, You fill in the blanks ___________/____________

1. Steven Jackson

2. Rashard Mendenhall

3. Steve Smith (CAR)

4. Arian Foster

5. Hines Ward

6. Jay Cutler

7. Bernard Berrian

8. Zach Miller

9. Montario Hardesty

10. Ben Roethlisberger

11. Jacoby Jones

12. Larry Johnson

13. Legedu Naanee

14. Kareem Huggins

15. ____________

16. ____________

Well, this is my least favorite team.  In retrospect I probably should have grabbed a WR in the 2nd round (Yeah, I know I could go back and delete that part, but I want you to see it as is).  I love my two RBs, but my WRs are very weak.  I am really amazed at how poor my options were.  It seemed like all the players I wanted were in one round!  If I learned anything from this, it is to hope some of the guys I like fall in the 7th-9th rounds.

  1. zack neugut says:

    i just picked form the nine pick what do you think? Its standard scoring 1 qb 2 rb 3 wr 1 rb/wr 1 te 1 def league

    1. (9) Randy Moss WR
    2. (16) Drew Brees QB (shonne greene was here but calvin and wayne were gone)
    3. (33) Beanie Wells RB (picked him over boldin)
    4. (40) Knowshon Moreno RB
    5. (57) Michael Crabtree WR
    6. (64) Ahmad Bradshaw RB
    7. (81) T.J. Houshmandzadeh WR
    8. (88) Dez Bryant WR
    9. (105) LaDainian Tomlinson RB
    10. (112) Donald Brown RB
    11. (129) Baltimore DEF
    12. (136) Greg Olsen TE
    13. (153) Jabar Gaffney WR
    14. (160) Mario Manningham WR
    15. (177) Darrius Heyward-Bey WR
    16. (184) John Carlson TE
    17. (201) Jay Feely K

    just a few questions
    is beanie wells actually not starting in place of hightower?
    any ideas on how to upgrade my run game (like potential trades you could think of)? I offered someone gaffney and bradshaw for forte and hes considering that, you think thats good trade?
    and how bad do you think my TE situation will be?

  2. KVC

    cleaver596 says:

    I ended up liking my team quite a bit. Lots of upside at RB with dependable WR2 and WR3.

    QB -eli manning -10
    RB CJ – 73
    RB – ronnie Brown – 17
    flex – bradshaw – 10
    wr – fitzgerald – 45
    wr – hines ward 14
    wr – derick mason 5
    te – celek – 10 (all TE’s went way more than expected, zach miller went for 10)
    k- akers – 1
    def – bengals – 1
    michael bush – 5
    mcfadden – 4
    ricky williams – 11
    malcom floyd – 5
    fred jackson – 5
    camarillo – 1

    I like having both williams and brown, due to brown’s injury history. and if brown stays healthy, he might reproduce what he did last year when healthy, which was very good stuff.

    owning the raiders backfield for 9 bucks total was a steal i think. whoever is the hot hand would make a good flex play.

    Fred jackson still has a chance to be a featured back due to spiller not handling a full load.

    someone has to catch the passes in MIN and SD, and Floyd looks like a good bet with Camarillo possibly being a possession sleeper in PPR leagues, which this is.

    Not having a backup for Eli kind of scares me, but I like Manning to have a little better year, with his receivers having a full year under their belts as a group. I’ll take just over 4000 yards with 25+ TD’s.

  3. Big Nate says:

    After I took AJ at the 9th pick, I could have coupled him with Fitzy or Megatron on the way back but got nervous so I went with DeAngelo Williams. Then, I grabbed Jennings in the 3rd and Wells in the 4th. This league starts 3 WRs so I was willing to take 2 WRs in the first 3 picks. Thoughts?

    QB Cutler, Jay (QB CHI) 8 QB
    RB Williams, DeAngelo (RB CAR) 6 RB
    RB Wells, Beanie (RB ARI) 6 RB
    WR Johnson, Andre (WR HOU) 7 WR
    WR Jennings, Greg (WR GB) 10 WR
    WR Maclin, Jeremy (WR PHI) 8 WR
    TE Celek, Brent (TE PHI) 8 TE
    K Prater, Matt (K DEN) 9 K
    DST Ravens (DST BAL) 8 DST
    RES Roethlisberger, Ben (QB PIT) 5 QB
    RES Floyd, Malcom (WR SD) 10 WR
    RES McCoy, LeSean (RB PHI) 8 RB
    RES Brown, Donald (RB IND) 7 RB
    RES Knox, Johnny (WR CHI) 8 WR

  4. wacho from the bronx says:

    Greetings from mars… This past weekend I drafted ray rice, mendehall,jacobs and bradshaw from the giants. At the momemt it seem right to draft booth backs from the giants but I’m now doubting the desicion… What do foresee…

  5. Howard says:

    Hi Doc,
    I drafted 14th in a mock the other day. Went for the stud RB’s at 14-15 and like you said it leaves the WR a little weak. I think I reached for Zach Miller at 6th but was happy to get Big Ben at 10. Drafting a D at 8 is inexcusable and will not happen again!

    1. Steven Jackson (StL – RB)
    2. Rashard Mendenhall (Pit – RB)
    3. Anquan Boldin (Bal – WR)
    4. Hakeem Nicks (NYG – WR)
    5. Jay Cutler (Chi – QB)
    6. Zach Miller (Oak – TE)
    7. Jabar Gaffney (Den – WR)
    8. New York (NYJ – DEF)
    9. Ben Roethlisberger (Pit – QB)
    10. Bernard Berrian (Min – WR)
    11. Donald Brown (Ind – RB)
    12. Early Doucet (Ari – WR)
    13. Darrius Heyward-Bey (Oak – WR)
    14. Montario Hardesty (Cle – RB)
    15. Jay Feely (Ari – K)

  6. Child Please says:

    Hey Chet,
    Do you know anywhere I could find some good auction values for a PPR league??

    Thanks in advance

  7. Howard says:

    @Doc I currently have Demayrius Thomas occupying one of my bench positions. Do you think Naanee would be a better bet to roster for upside?

  8. Doc

    Doc says:

    @zack neugut: Yeah, the Wells situation is getting worrisome. I have no doubt he’ll be the lead guy stats wise, but I’d really like to see him start. I would be worried about the TE situation. Carlson hasn’t been targeted in preseason much and neither has Olsen. Is Scheffler/Gresham around? Don’t see any clear moves to make right now. I’d hold.

    @cleaver596: Yeah, for socking so much into 2 players you really ended up with a fairly balanced team. Lots of depth.

    @Big Nate: 10 teamer? If this is 12 you are really stacked. But in 10 you aren’t hurting. RB is probably the weakest, but McCoy as a backup is really solid.

    @Howard: Hah, yeah, that 8th round D will get you hazed by the ffb community! I think your receivers really aren’t that bad at all. Especially for a 14 teamer. Really pretty stout all around.

    @Howard: Probably. DT has more long term value, but unless you have really deep benches I rather have Naanee right now.

  9. Child Please says:

    Hey Doc,
    Do you know where I could find some good pre-draft dollar values for a PPR auction league?

  10. I like your taste in RBs, but you’re going to be REALLY thin at WR.

  11. Doc

    Doc says:

    @mattmaison: Tell me something I don’t know!!

  12. Big Nate says:

    @Doc: 12 teamer. So we agree that I dominated last night’s draft….

    I’ve played in this money league for 5 years now so it’s not as if these guys are complete amateurs but I couldn’t believe it when 4 QB’s were off the board in the first round including Romo at #11 (4 points for passing TD) and then Fitzy, Megatron and Marshall weren’t taken until the start of the 3rd round.

    Isn’t it nice to have one league that you can count on to fund your other leagues…

  13. Wilsonian says:

    @Doc: what is this “Wells situation” that you speak of? I have him in two leagues and am not liking these blasphemous rumors!!

  14. Dakota says:

    I think SJax is the best late first round choice if he falls. I had the 12th pick in a draft last weekend and Jackson fell all the way down the board to me (the other back end picks in order were Moss, Brees, Manning). I had been planning on drafting Mendenhall with one of my two picks, but Jackson’s availability made my day.

    I did run into the same problem with WR’s down the board because I think 3rd/4th turn is a bad spot to be drafting a WR2. Now, the end of the 5th/6th is a great time to grab a WR3 because there’s a number of upside guys who could have big years (Harvin, Garcon, Floyd) or Mr. Reliable Hines Ward. I doubled up with WR in the 5th, 6th, but am not crazy about it.

    There’s a possibility that I’d go WR/WR if Moss was available but Jackson was off the board, therefore freeing up both picks in the 3rd/4th to target these running backs (McCoy, Best, Wells, Forte or Foster). You can grab another RB in the 5th/6th (Bradshaw, Jones, Spiller) but I’m way down on all the backs nominally available at the end of the 5th, beginning of the 6th. What I do with my 5th/6th round pick here would depend on what QBs and TEs are available. No one I really want? Then wait it out and draft a QB in the 7th/8th and a high end back up (or low QB1) in the 9th/10th.

    Here’s the team I ended up with drafting 12th in a pretty competitive league (standard scoring, 1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, TE, no flex):

    1. SJax
    2. Reggie Wayne
    3. McCoy
    4. Romo
    5. Mike Walker (gift)
    6. Malcolm Floyd
    7. Mike Wallace
    8. Jerome Harrison
    9. McNabb
    10. Carnell Williams (gift)
    11. Lee Evans
    12. John Carlson (hey TE panic)
    13. Bernard Scott
    14. Chris Chambers
    15. Miami Defense
    16. Mr. Irrelevant – Janikowski

  15. Turd Ferguson says:

    I got squeezed out of WR2/3 runs so ended up reaching for Finley and building WR depth with upside guys to cover, but now I have 5 WRs duking it out behind Smith (CAR), and my RB4 is Caddy. Would you dump Gaffney or Jacoby Jones for LJ, offer one of them for Huggins, or wait it out a couple weeks and see who emerges? The FA RB pickins are slim.

  16. Wilsonian says:

    @Wilsonian: that being said, here’s my roster in a 12 Team 0.5 PPR league:

    QB: Cutler
    WR: Wayne
    WR: Austin
    WR: Ward
    RB: Wells
    RB: Moreno
    TE: Celek
    W/R: Bradshaw
    K: Akers
    DEF: Cincy
    BN: Dez
    BN: Breaston
    BN: Bess
    BN: Sproles
    BN: Alex Smith

    The only viable option(s) I have for dropping are Bess and possibly Smith, but most likely only Bess. Would you drop him for any of the following RBs just for backup’s sake:

    Choice, Bernie Scott, Huggins, Faulk, Buckhalter, Kevin Smith?

    Thanks, Doc!

  17. Turd Ferguson says:

    @Wilsonian: I’d drop Bess for Huggins, Scott or Faulk. Like Choice too, but in a PPR Faulk is a nice safe backup to have on your roster.

  18. johnny says:

    Currently in a draft, drafting about 1 round per day. Standard league.

  19. johnny says:

    Currently in a draft, drafting about 1 round per day. Standard league. Start 1 QB, 2 RB 3 WR, 1 RB/WR 1 TE, K, D 4 per pass td, 6 rush/receive
    A Peterson
    Pierre Thomas
    Felix Jones
    Calvin Johnson
    Greg Jennings
    Hakeem Nicks
    Santana Moss
    J Finley
    My pick is up. do I take Fred Jackson, Hardesty, or a Backup QB(roth,, or the 1st defense(Jets?)

  20. KVC

    cleaver596 says:

    @Doc: Yeah looking at my team through blood shot eyes with a terrible hangover right now, I feel like I did a good job of being patient and filling out my team with good solid value. After ending up with two guys in the first round, I didn’t buy another guy til pick 67. I look at the 2 other teams that spent big money on 2 studs, and they ended up with a lot of garbage to fill out their teams.

  21. Dakota says:


    I like Hardesty for his potential. I think Cleveland is wide open and someone will get the majority of the carries there. Hardesty is also a decent pass catcher meaning he could see work on third down as well.

  22. Jack says:

    Hey Doc, here are my starters and bench for week 1. Anything you would change as far as who to start and who to sit? It’s 1 PPR.

    QB Tony Romo
    RB Frank Gore @Sea
    RB Jamaal Charles vs SD
    RB/WR Arian Foster vs Ind
    WR Reggie Wayne @Hou
    WR Dwayne Bowe vs SD
    TE Zach Miller
    D/ST Broncos
    K Jay Feely

    BN WR Hakeem Nicks vs Car
    BN RB Ahmad Bradshaw vs Car
    BN RB Darren McFadden @Ten
    BN WR Robert Meachem vs Min
    BN WR Devin Hester vs Det
    BN WR Jabar Gaffney @Jac

    Also, what are your thoughts on the Broncos D/ST? I was thinking maybe I should stream D/ST week-to-week based on matchups. For instance, the Bears are on the wire and have the Lions in Week 1. Would you drop the Broncos for the Bears before Week 1? Or would you stand pat on rolling Denver’s D out at Jacksonville?


  23. Isles Guru says:


    You think Louis Murphy has potential in a Dynasty league?

  24. John says:

    Just did a draft out of the 13th spot of 14 teams
    QB: Kolb
    WR: Crabtree
    WR: Floyd
    RB: S-Jax
    RB: Grant
    TE: Miller
    W/R/T: Foster
    K: Nedney
    D: Bears

    BN: Ricky Williams
    BN: Brandon Jacobs
    BN: Donald Brown
    BN: Devin Thomas
    BN: Gaffney
    BN: Henne

    My WR is a little weak but i love the depth and mix of starters and upside i managed to get here.

  25. Ian says:

    Rank these back up RBs for me: Buckhalter, Bernard Scott and Huggins. Thank you sir!

  26. dja says:

    how would rank these in a 14 teamer?

    fred jackson, marshawn, cadillac, kareem huggins, bernard scott

    i can have 3 of them. which would you choose?

  27. dja says:

    or i could have 4 and drop jason campbell… and deal with the no-backup-qb nightmare when i have to

  28. dja says:

    also, would you hold onto TO in a 14-teamer? or try to target someone with him. if so, who would you target? i’ve been considering offering him for jacoby jones or something. stupid?

  29. timmy riggins says:

    @Doc: Hi, I have an updated draft question. I have the 3rd pick AND 7th pick in the first rd (traded 2nd and 3rd rds) in a 10 team keeper league. I kept jamaal charles for my rd 10 draft pick.

    This is a 2-QB league (6/td). Brees and manning will be the first 2 taken off the board (arod and CJ are kept). There will be a crazy QB run early where flacco and cutler are gone by early second and i dont have another pick till mid-4th.

    which of these scenarios would you select:

    a) AP #3 & schaub #7. (solidify backfield w/ap charles and have one solid qb
    b) AP #3 and ray rice #7 (best value left on board, however id inevitably have to trade one of them since i cant start 3 RBs and these guys will yield more return than charles in a trade. Could be a pain in the ass or could be a beastly backfield

    c) Brady #3 & schaub #7 (nice qb tandem and then go for beanie wells/moreno type with my 4th rd pick so i have wells/charles combo)
    d) Brady #3 and ray rice #7

    All of these options are enticing….which route would you select and why


  30. Calogero says:

    I drafted from the 11th slot last week in a similar scoring system, and the only guys from your list that were even close to still being available at my pick were Foster (pre breakout preseason game), Ward, Berrian and Zach Miller.

  31. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Big Nate: hah, yes. Keep the cash train running

    @Wilsonian: Oh, Hightower is #1 on the depth chart. And Wells fumble in the redzone last week. Bastard.

    @Dakota: Liking Romo in the 4th. That’s where he would have to be for me. Yeah, SJax keeps falling and I love it. I’m starting to warm to McCoy in non ppr leagues. He’s not quite Westbrook, but I’m hoping his numbers can inch close to his.

    @Turd Ferguson: I think you need to wait for a little more regular season direction. Those RBs are fliers and your WRs are a little more stable.

    @Wilsonian: Yeah, I’d drop Bess for Huggins. You need a little RB depth.

    @johnny: You are pretty stacked at WR/RB. I’d get a good backup QB in Ben.

    @Jack: Looks dead on to me.

    @cleaver596: Yep, being able to change your strategy mid draft helps

    @Isles Guru: I do. Really liked what I saw out of him last season.

    @John: Yeah, really nice RB depth. Might be something to help you upgrade at WR at some point.

    @Ian: Huggins, Buckhalter, Scott.

    @dja: cadillac, fred jackson, kareem huggins, marshawn, bernard scott I’d keep Campbell. TO should be solid enough. I like Jones upside more, but TO might be more consistent.

    @timmy riggins: I like options A and B. If you think you could trade AP or Rice for someone a little higher than Schaub I’d go that route. If you would just end up getting Schaub or worse or you just aren’t sure, go the Schaub/AP route.

    @Calogero: Really depends on how your league feels about WRs. And if SJax and Mendy had been gone I would have felt ok about grabbing a WR or 2 there.

  32. Dumbmutt says:

    12-Team Non-PPR at pick 7
    4pt Pass TD Bonus points at 300 Pass 100 Rush/Rec

    QB: Cutler
    WR: Andre Johnson
    WR: Marques Colston
    RB: Steven Jackson
    RB: Jamaal Charles
    TE: Finley
    FLEX: Johnny Knox
    K: Sebastian Janikowski
    D: Bengals

    BN: Cadd Williams
    BN: Donald Brown
    BN: Mike Williams
    BN: Jabar Gaffney
    BN: Roethlisberger

    4th pick was Colston but I could have grabbed Foster for FLEX. I’d never seen Colston drop down to the Mid 4 and it sorta threw me off.

    Will my Flex be ok for now with Knox/Caddy matchups? And would you trade Colston for Foster if the other guy goes for it? Huggins available too.

    Thank you for the Tier Rankings!

  33. Jinny akes says:

    Yo. Love the site again this year.

    What do you think of this team? Thin at rb, but looking for a sleeper down the road.

    (Kept AJ)
    M bush
    J Harrison



  34. Jinny akes says:

    Sorry. Typing on a iPhone sucks. Will repost later

  35. Turd Ferguson says:

    Reposting the second part of Jack’s question, as I’m in the same situation (and would add, streaming aside, do you like the Bears or Broncos better overall this year?):

    Also, what are your thoughts on the Broncos D/ST? I was thinking maybe I should stream D/ST week-to-week based on matchups. For instance, the Bears are on the wire and have the Lions in Week 1. Would you drop the Broncos for the Bears before Week 1? Or would you stand pat on rolling Denver’s D out at Jacksonville?

  36. Wilsonian says:

    @Doc: so you like Huggins the best out of those options? You have Choice ranked higher on your PPR tiers, so I’m just a little curious…

  37. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Wilsonian: Yeah, with Ward being cut that moves Huggins up.

    @Jack: @Turd Ferguson: I like Denver’s D enough to hold onto them there. But I am usually streaming most of the time.

  38. k says:

    @Doc: I agree exactly with what you said. I drafted from the 12th spot the other night and was just amazed at what sort of options were available each time around. I ended up with a somewhat similar team to yours. I’m in 3 leagues this year, and this is by far my least favorite team. Maybe I’m overreacting though. NonPPR – number in parenthesis is the round I drafted that player.

    QB Cutler (8)
    RB Mendenhall (2)
    RB Spiller (5)
    Flex Smith – CAR (3)
    WR Moss (1)
    WR Colston (4)
    TE Z Miller (9)

    Bench Forsett (6), M Bush (7), Big Ben (10), M Williams (11), Floyd (12), Huggins (13), Gaffney (14).


  39. Doc

    Doc says:

    @k: Getting Colston in the 4th and Floyd in the 12th is nice. A little early on Forsett, but I still like his potential. Worried about Spiller as the #2. With Floyd on the bench i could see trying to upgrade Spiller. Maybe a Colston/Spiller trade for a RB?

  40. k says:

    @Grey: What type of RB should I realistically be looking at for those two?

  41. Fletch says:

    @Doc: Hey Doc…dynasty league question for you. Is James Jones worth trading a 2011 2nd rounder for? It will probably be around pick 16-20 next year. I’m thinking as soon as Driver is hurt/done Jones will run with it.

  42. Doc

    Doc says:

    @k: I would look for someone with a need for WR who is strong at RB. I would aim pretty high. Spiller has a lot hype right now. I would try for Grant/Benson. A lot depends on what team best fits a trade first.

    @Fletch: Jones should be the guy next season. I would stick with him.

  43. dentist says:

    Chet, what’s up with all these reports that Rothlisberger has a good chance to have his suspension reduced because he’s gone “above and beyond” what the NFL asked of him? I keep hearing he’s gone a&b, but am missing what he’s done to earn that recognition. Did he save a bunch of puppies from a wicked witch?

  44. Doc

    Doc says:

    @dentist: I guess not molesting is a positive step.

  45. zack neugut says:

    scheffler is there you think hes an upgrade? and any strategy for idp leagues coming i have one next week (as well as an auction)

  46. zack neugut says:

    yeah my league is snake with 8 idps

  47. k says:

    @Grey: There are a few teams who are really hurting at WR. These are the better RBs that those team own: AP, CJ2K, Moreno, DWilliams, Grant, and McCoy. Other than probably AP and CJ, I’d assume any of the other 4 are available.

  48. Greg says:


    I’m trying to lock up my starting lineup for next week. PPR flex position – Tim Hightower or Santana Moss (assume Mcnabb is playing). I’m torn here Whisenhunt is VERY loyal to vets early and Arizona has STL. Wash has Dallas…. MY gut says be cute and play hightower…..since Dmac is “touchy” and Dallas has a good D. how is ur gut reading it?

  49. dja says:

    i’m doing a 12 team h2h draft tonight, with qb td’s worth 6 points.

    qb’s have been historically undervalued in the draft in this league

    i have the 11th pick.

    if rodgers or brees are available i think it’s a no-brainer for me to grab them

    but after that things get murky. if i go RB i’m looking at a pretty tough WR lineup, but if i take an andre johnson or moss or something i’m probably screwed at RB. ideas on players to target with this strategy?

  50. Doc

    Doc says:

    @k: As long as it’s non PPR I’d give Grant a try. He should be steady production. Spiller has a lot of ability, but will be spread out on returns and the Bills won’t be near the redzone nearly as often as the Pack.

    @Greg: I don’t think it is too crazy to go with Hightower there.

    @dja: Going QB first you are going to be a little weak at whatever position you don’t take 2nd. I see more upside possibility in RBs later so I would grab a top WR and then stack up on RBs as the draft goes on.

  51. Daniel says:

    I just had my draft this past weekend…drafted from the 10th spot. Winded up a little light at wr but just made a trade giving up Jahvid Best for Steve Smith (car). Please let me know what you think…Thanks…
    QB — Flacco, Kolb, Stafford
    RB — Turner, Matthews, Foster, Spiller, Tomlinson
    WR — Boldin, Steve Smith, Garcon, Knox, Dez Bryant, McCluster
    TE — Cooley
    D/st — Chargers
    Kicker — Shayne Graham

    We play 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, 1 D/st, and 1 K

    Thanks for your thoughts

  52. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Daniel: I like it. I like Best a lot, but that was probably a good trade for your team. I don’t think you need 3 QBs, but I could see waiting and trading one later. All 3 have good upside. Solid team all around.

  53. zack neugut says:

    i have eight team league tonight with 2 qb 2 rb 3 wr 1 te 1 def 1 k 6 bench spots. any suggestions? i think if i dont get top 4 pick i might take back to back qb’s in first two rounds but is number 5 overall to high to take rodgers or brees?

  54. Doc

    Doc says:

    @zack neugut: Hmm, interesting setup. I could see grabbing 2 top QBs there depending on your draft spot.

  55. Karen says:

    This is my first year and I am unsure about my team. I had a strategy and veered away when runs started. Lots of mistakes I feel. I would love to hear any feedback.

    QB: Romo, Bradford
    WR: Moss, Garcon, Crabtree, Knox, Laurent Robinson
    RB: Benson, Wells, Spiller, Huggins
    TE: Winslow
    K: Janikowski
    D: Posluszny, Vilma, Harper, Manning, Ellerbe, Boley

    I have had two trade offers….(1) Hines Ward and Geno Hayes for Spiller (2)Jamaal Charles and Arian Foster for Moss.


  56. Doc

    Doc says:

    @Karen: It doesn’t look too bad. Wells, was injured tonight, but we don’t know if it’s bad or not. But it does make me look at that Foster/JC trade with some interest. I’d hate to lose Moss because that would really hurt your WRs. I wonder if you could do that trade and then trade Spiller to the Ward owner for a better WR? I actually don’t hate Spiller for Ward, but his perceived value is higher than Ward. Who do that owner have at WR besides Ward?

  57. zack neugut says:

    the 8 team league i was talking about just finished. 2 qbs 3 wrs 2 rbs 1 te 1 def 1 k and 6 bench. 4 qbs were gone by round 2 and 7 were gone by rivers.

    1. (3) Ray Rice
    2. (14) Tony Romo
    3. (19) Philip Rivers
    4. (30) Marques Colston
    5. (35) Jamaal Charles
    6. (46) Michael Crabtree
    7. (51) Mike Sims-Walker
    8. (62) Jeremy Maclin
    9. (67) Johnny Knox
    10. (78) LeSean McCoy
    11. (83) Knowshon Moreno
    12. (94) Zach Miller
    13. (99) Dez Bryant
    14. (110) Philadelphia
    15. (115) Chad Henne
    16. (126) Sebastian Janikowski

    also another league, 14 team auction

    1. (29) Larry Fitzgerald $31
    2. (34) Steven Jackson $45
    3. (36) Matt Schaub $29
    4. (40) Brandon Marshall $32
    5. (71) Anquan Boldin $25
    6. (85) Santonio Holmes $7
    7. (89) Clinton Portis $20
    8. (132) Greg Olsen $2
    9. (133) Pittsburgh $1
    10. (174) Marshawn Lynch $2
    11. (182) Chaz Schilens $1
    12. (193) Kevin Smith $1
    13. (202) Sammy Morris $1
    14. (210) Golden Tate $1
    15. (217) Rian Lindell $1
    16. (221) Marcedes Lewis $1

    no one on waivers what do you think. any trades cause the auction team wasnt looking good, i had to crazy overspend on portis cause he was the only guy left who was a starter or backup

  58. dja says:

    drafted this team in my 12-team h2h serpentine draft. pass td’s worth 6 pts (but INT worth -2)

    QB (6) cutler (thought about taking flacco over him since int’s are -2. ultimately went cutler. right decision?)
    RB (1) mendenhall (wanted rodgers or brees, but they were taken in the 2 picks directly before mine)
    RB (2) ryan matthews (took him over deangelo and greene. hopefully a good decision?)
    WR (3) greg jennings (was eying mighty JC who was still on the board, but was taken the pick before this. could have taken brandon marshall instead, but went non-headcase)
    WR (5) hakeem nicks
    RB/WR (4) knowshon
    TE (8) kellen winslow (super pissed: see below, and then cooley was taken the pick directly before this)
    DEF (14) saints
    K (na) have to drop someone for a kicker before the season starts (right? have you ever gone sans-kicker opening week in hope that your guys gain value?)

    WR (7) johnny knox (really pissed here. zach miller was taken the pick directly before mine)
    RB (9) montario hardesty
    RB (10) mcfadden
    RB (13) larry johnson
    WR (11) derrick mason (really wanted jacoby jones or gaffney here, but both were taken in the 6 picks before me)
    WR (12) sidney rice (our league has an IR spot, so i’m keeping him there unless one of my studs gets injured)
    QB (15) garrard

    what do you think?

    someone has already offered me miles austin and rape-less-berger for matthews. he also has jacoby jones, who i wanted… should i come up with an offer? something to think about, or horrible idea?

  59. Karen says:

    Thanks Doc!

    The owner also has Brandon Marshall starting, then Holmes, Edwards, Jacoby and McCluster on the bench.

  60. tim says:

    What about this 10 team, non-ppr?

    Tony Romo/Mcnabb

    Jonathan Stewart
    Steven Jackson
    Pierre Thomas
    Felix Jones
    Willis McGahee

    Andre Johnson
    Percy Harvin
    Mike Sims-Walker
    Jeremy Maclin
    Jabar Gaffney
    Sydney Rice (picked him up on waivers)

    Jermichael Finley

    Nate Kaeding

    NO Saints DST

  61. Doc

    Doc says:

    @mark: yeah. looks stout.

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