Last week I may have said something like “the worst part is we don’t know how these injuries will affect the players’ performances”.  Then Chris Ivory was active without receiving a carry, which is to say there was no performance to affect.  Ouch.  But on the plus side, hey, he could have re-injured himself had he played, right?  In a way it feels like the fantasy football season hasn’t truly begun until something like this happens.  Because it happens.  Every.  Year.  This week we need to discuss the injury situations for newly injured players such as:  Ben Roethlisberger, Davante Adams (newly re-injured), Sammy Watkins, Jonathan Stewart, Crockett Gillmore and others.  We’ll revisit some other players situations with notes on players (finally) nearing their returns.  And if you are wondering about the order, the first section is by biggest affect to least affect on fantasy teams, “On The Mend” is by team.

Ben Rothelisberger (knee) has suffered a MCL sprain (aka tear, as in, all sprains are tears) and a bone bruise of his knee.  It turns out a bone bruise is actually a type of fracture and is possibly the more concerning of the two injuries:

Mike (Michael? I don’t actually know) Vick will take over as the Steelers starting QB for the next 4-6 weeks with their upcoming schedule being BAL, @SD, ARI, @KC, CIN, OAK.  Perhaps Ben will be back in time for the Cincinnati game.  Until then, you’ll keep starting Antonio Brown and Le’Veon Bell and hoping for the best.  There’s no way you’re benching them, right?  Martavis Bryant is nearing a return but without his starting QB I imagine he’ll stay on the bench in most leagues, as will Heath Miller and, well, anyone else not named Brown or Bell.

Davante Adams (ankle) aggravated his injury on Monday and that’s kind of a big deal, because it matters as much for James Jones’ owners as it does for Adams’ owners.  James Jones has been outproducing Adams despite a small share of the targets (remarkably, Jones only had seven targets going into Monday night) but with Adams out he had a huge Monday night game and this injury will probably set him up as the no doubt WR2 for the Packers.  And I think that makes him a no doubt WR2 for fantasy even when Adams returns (borderline WR1 while Adams is out?).  Assuming Adams can return quickly he can possibly work himself back to being a fantasy WR3/Flex type play.  I haven’t heard word on how much time he will miss, probably about two games.

Sammy Watkins‘ (calf) injury helped lead to season high targets for Percy Harvin (8) and Charles Clay (7) last week.  Your other options would have to be pretty good for you to keep them on the bench if Watkins misses time, which looks quite likely.  Maybe he’ll miss next week as well, I don’t have enough information to do more than just hazard a guess.

Jonathan Stewart (leg) missed practice with a tibia injury and I’m really not sure what to make of it, I haven’t heard any details, there’s a chance that the lack of information here means it’s minor.  Fozzy Whitaker looks like his handcuff except that Cameron Artis-Payne got three carries late in the game, perhaps after Stewart was hurt?  I don’t have the details on that one, it’s speculation, see the comments section for an update.

Crockett Gillmore (calf) is a player that was on people’s radar and was creeping up in the ownership levels in 12 team leagues, but he’s suffered a calf injury and won’t play Thursday against the Steelers.  Expect Maxx Williams to be more heavily involved in Gillmore’s absence, so now Williams, a 2nd round rookie, needs to be on your radar.  I expect Gillmore to jump back ahead of Williams upon his return to health.  You could probably get away with dropping Gillmore for this week but if you do you may want to pick him back up early next week.

Previously Injured Players:

LeSean McCoy (hamstring) and DeMarco Murray are linked due to reasons known to everyone, that reason being that Murray plays for McCoy’s old team.  Now they are also linked in the 2015 NFL season for having both suffered hamstring injuries and in “The Injury Report” because I failed to discuss them last week, and that was a mistake.  It was partly because of how many other situations there were to discuss and partly because I sort of just assumed both guys would be fine.  Well, McCoy did actually play so I guess I’m off the hook for that one.  However it looks like he won’t play this week and frankly, I should have been discussing Karlos Williams after week one.  He’s a player I really like, yet if McCoy is going to return to health I think we need to temper our expectations for Williams.  Realize that the Bills offense has produced twelve offensive touchdowns which is third best behind only New England (14) and Arizona (13).  Major regression alert.  On the other hand, the twenty five carries their collective RBs are averaging through three games is sustainable.  The bottom line is Williams needs to be (and by now probably is) owned everywhere.

DeMarco MurrayRyan Mathews.. ugh.  I told a DeMarco Murray (hamstring) owner last week that Ryan Mathews could be dropped (for Isaiah Crowell).  That’s some bad advice as it turned out.  Well, it’s actually not quite as bad as it looks, but it’s pretty bad.  While some reversion to a normal running offense was to be expected, I think their real rushing offense will be something between what happened in weeks 2 and week 3.  Well, I guess that might be obvious.  Considering what we’ve seen so far, I’m not sure if they will average much more than 100 or so rushing yards per game and remember there is an approximate 50-35-15 split on those yards between Murray-Mathews-Sproles.  I’m pretty sure Murray will play this week.  But he’s going to be very hard to trust as it could be an even split between Murray and Mathews this week, with Darren Sproles there to do his thing as well.

On The Mend (players nearing a return): Andre Ellington (knee) should be back but Chris Johnson is going to severely cut into his work load as Bruce Arians has stated that Johnson will get 15-20 touches per game.  While I’m sure what this really means is that he will get 15-20 touches when things are going fabulously for the Cardinals, that’s still saying something.  And Johnson might really be a whole lot better than he has been the last four or so years.  View this in the context that, in my opinion, he’s been one of the worst RBs in the league the last four or so years.  I’m expecting Alshon Jeffery (calf) to suit up for the Bears and if his owners are lucky Cutler will be back as well but I wouldn’t count on it.  Speaking again of bad advice *AHEM* last week I said something like “Chris Polk is the only Arian Foster (groin) handcuff you that’s worth owning”.  Then Alfred Blue went off.  Foster is still iffy for this week and I have to assume they will turn to Blue again this week.

(…continued…) Julius Thomas (finger) “has not been cleared yet” according to a report on profootballtalk.com.  I think we’ll see him next week.  Lamar Miller (ankle) played last week and is not on this week’s injury report.  Drew Brees (shoulder) is already on the upswing.  I hope to see Chris Ivory (quadriceps, active but no carries last week) back but Bilal Powell needs to stay owned for now.  He needs to stay owned in PPR leagues all year.  DeSean Jackson (hamstring) missed his second game last week and he’s iffy for this week.  I think his return will have a positive effect for the rushing attack and a slightly negative impact on Pierre Garcon and Jordan Reed.  Ladarius Green (concussion) could play and is probably worth considering for a start this week.  Reggie Bush (calf) participated in full on Wednesday so I see no reason he won’t suit up.  I’d consider grabbing him in 14+ team PPR leagues, otherwise I’d make him prove himself by at least getting a few touches first.  His teammate Vernon Davis (knee) did not practice after leaving Sunday’s game with his injury.  Tight end Garrett Celek will be the primary beneficiary if Davis misses time, with Anquan Boldin and Torrey Smith likely to see a slight bump in targets.

Setbacks: Devante Adams had a setback worthy of a whole paragraph, see above.  Breshad Perriman (knee) might have been active last week but he re-aggravated his injury during pregame warmups.  Now his timetable is officially “????” as far as I can tell.

 

The Practice Report for Wednesday September 30, 2015

Here are the practice reports for Week 4 of the NFL season.  These are the same reports that each team is required to give the league after every day of practice.  Teams that play Thursday have a full injury report with the “Out/Doubtful/Questionable/Probable” designations due by Wednesday.  Teams that play Sunday (or Saturday) only have a practice report due Wednesday and teams that play Monday have nothing at all due by Wednesday.

Arizona Cardinals
John Brown – WR – Limited Participation
Andre Ellington – RB – Limited Participation
J.J. Nelson – WR – No Participation

Atlanta Falcons
Tevin Coleman – RB – No Participation
Devonta Freeman – RB – Limited Participation
Devin Hester – WR – Limited Participation
Julio Jones – WR – No Participation
Jacob Tamme – TE – No Participation

Baltimore Ravens
Crockett Gillmore – TE – No Participation (OUT for Thursday)
Breshad Perriman – WR – No Participation (OUT for Thursday)

Buffalo Bills
Marquise Goodwin – WR – Limited Participation
Percy Harvin – WR – No Participation
LeSean McCoy – RB – No Participation
Tyrod Taylor – QB – Full Participation
Sammy Watkins – WR – No Participation

Carolina Panthers
Corey Brown – WR – No Participation
Jerricho Cotchery – WR – No Participation
Jonathan Stewart – RB – No Participation
Mike Tolbert – RB – No Participation

Chicago Bears
Jay Cutler – QB – Limited Participation
Alshon Jeffery – WR – Limited Participation

Cincinnati Bengals
None

Cleveland Browns
Travis Benjamin – WR – Limited Participation
Johnny Manziel – QB – Full Participation
Josh McCown – QB – Full Participation
Robert Turbin – RB – No Participation

Dallas Cowboys
Dez Bryant – WR – No Participation
Jason Witten – TE – Full Participation

Denver Broncos
Peyton Manning – QB – No Participation
Juwan Thompson – RB – Full Participation

Detroit Lions
No Practice Information Reported (Monday night game)

Green Bay Packers
Davante Adams – WR – No Participation
Randall Cobb – WR – Full Participation
Eddie Lacy – RB – Full Participation
Andrew Quarless – TE – No Participation
Aaron Ripkowski – RB – Full Participation

Houston Texans
Arian Foster – RB – Limited Participation
Jonathan Grimes – RB – No Participation
Ryan Mallett – QB – Limited Participation

Indianapolis Colts
Dwayne Allen – TE – No Participation
Andre Johnson – WR – No Participation
Andrew Luck – QB – Limited Participation
Josh Robinson – RB – Limited Participation
Tyler Varga – RB – No Participation

Jacksonville Jaguars
Allen Hurns – WR – Limited Participation
Marqise Lee – WR – No Participation
Denard Robinson – RB – No Participation
Julius Thomas – TE – Limited Participation

Kansas City Chiefs
Jason Avant – WR – Full Participation
Chris Conley – WR – Full Participation
Albert Wilson – WR – Limited Participation

Miami Dolphins
Jordan Cameron – TE – Limited Participation
Jonas Gray – RB – Limited Participation
Dion Sims – TE – Limited Participation

Minnesota Vikings
Charles Johnson – WR – No Participation
Jarius Wright – WR – No Participation

New England Patriots
No Practice Information Reported (bye week)

New Orleans Saints
Drew Brees – QB – Limited Participation
Brandin Cooks – WR – Limited Participation

New York Giants
Victor Cruz – WR – Limited Participation
Jerome Cunningham – TE – No Participation
Orleans Darkwa – RB – Limited Participation
Daniel Fells – TE – No Participation

New York Jets
Jeff Cumberland – TE – No Participation
Eric Decker – WR – No Participation
Chris Ivory – RB – Limited Participation
Chris Owusu – WR – No Participation
Devin Smith – WR – Full Participation

Oakland Raiders
Taiwan Jones – RB – No Participation
Jamize Olawale – RB – Full Participation

Philadelphia Eagles
Trey Burton – TE – Full Participation
Riley Cooper – WR – No Participation
Josh Huff – WR – Limited Participation
DeMarco Murray – RB – Limited Participation

Pittsburgh Steelers
Ben Roethlisberger – QB – No Participation (OUT for Thursday)
Matt Spaeth – TE – No Participation (OUT for Thursday)

San Diego Chargers
Ladarius Green – TE – Limited Participation
Jacoby Jones – WR – No Participation

Seattle Seahawks
No Practice Information Reported (Monday night game)

San Francisco 49ers
Reggie Bush – RB – Full Participation
Vernon Davis – TE – No Participation
Bruce Ellington – WR – Full Participation
Vance McDonald – TE – Full Participation

St. Louis Rams
Kenny Britt – WR – No Participation
Chase Reynolds – RB – No Participation

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Austin Seferian-Jenkins – TE – No Participation
Luke Stocker – TE – No Participation

Tennessee Titans
No Practice Information Reported (bye week)

Washington Football Team
DeSean Jackson – WR – No Participation
Colt McCoy – QB – Full Participation

I’m happy to comment on situation I missed or to elaborate on anything you want.  Comment below!

Lance is worth a follow on Twitter, @RotoLance.

  1. Joe says:
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    I have a bad situation at RB. I got CJA, Abdullah, Lewis, and now Karlos Williams. Ellington and Chris Johnson are both available. I think this week Williams is a better bet than any card RB because Shady looks to be out. But would you still want to drop Williams now for either Ellington or Johnson?

    • RotoLance

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      @Joe: No, I’d probably drop Abdullah for Chris Johnson though. Heck, I think I’d drop Abdullah for either one, for that matter. It’s rough for you with Dion Lewis out, but man, I think your RBs will be just fine. Dion Lewis is an RB1 in PPR and a solid RB2 in standard.

      Bottom line is Karlos Williams > Abdullah right now because he’s got more potential. Plus he means much more to you this week than Abdullah because of his expected start at RB.

      Good question, thanks for reading.

      • Joe says:
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        @RotoLance:

        That was a very nicely detailed, thoughtful answer . Thanks so much.

        • RotoLance

          RotoLance says:
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          @Joe: I typically only get 15-20 questions per post so I generally give that sort of detailed answer.

  2. Butterfield says:
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    Is Adams worth a trade target? I’m thinking Dunbar / R. Randle / D. Parker for Adams / Hillman. I have depth at WR (Allen, Robinson, Cooks, Moncrief) so I can afford to stash him for a few weeks.

    • RotoLance

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      @Butterfield: That’s an interesting line of thinking, whether or not Davante is a buy low right now. That deal sounds about right to me, it’s fair, and in standard I would probably favor Adams/Hillman slightly. In full PPR it might favor the Dunbar side though. But the Adams/Hillman side definitely wins in “upside”.

  3. RotoLance

    RotoLance says:
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    Breshad Perriman update: He’s undergone a knee scope so he’ll probably miss another 3-4 weeks.

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:
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      @RotoLance: An update from someone with actual medical background: David J. Chao, MD ‏@ProFootballDoc 24s25 seconds ago

      David J. Chao, MD Retweeted Ian Rapoport

      If scope for associated cartilage, return in weeks.
      If PCL reconstruction surgery, lucky to be back by training camp

  4. chisoxx22 says:
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    2 qb league. Romo out and brees iffy, my bench has flacco and vick who both play tonight, question is do I not start vick and hope for brees to play or drop vick for the likes of fitzpatrick, Bridgewater, cousins, mallet or kaepernick if brees does sit?

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:
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      @chisoxx22: I think I like Kaepernick out of those options, in case Brees can’t play. Haven’t checked the schedule, guessing 49ers play the late slate while Brees plays the early, if so I think that’s the way you want to go.

    • RotoLance

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      @chisoxx22: Presumably you checked for yourself or already knew but Brees is actually playing Sunday night. It’s possible we’ll hear word on him before his game.

  5. Wacha wacha says:
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    Hello

    2 QB league. I have M Ryan but which 2 of these 3 should I keep going forward?
    Bridgewarer, cutler, fitzpatrick

    Also which side of trades do you prefer? Standard scoring

    J Randle and moncrief for e sanders
    D Hopkins for Gore and a Johnson

    Thanks a bunch!

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:
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      @Wacha wacha: Ugh, I think I have to rank Cutler ahead of Bridgewater. It’s close between all 3. Fitzpatrick and Cutler.

      I love me some Moncrief.. but damn, E Sanders.. it’s close. Id say it’s fair, I’d have to see your team makeup before deciding, it’s that close.

      A Johnson is worth nothing to me right now, I think he could be dropped for the right player. So the second one is basically D. Hopkins v F Gore, I guess I’d favor Hopkins, again, depends on overall roster.

      • Wacha wacha says:
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        @RotoLance:

        Was just offered A Cooper for Randle. Accept or hold? Thanks for the advice!

        Qb Ryan, Fitz
        RB forte Randle
        Wr Robinson, moncrief
        Te gronk
        D broncos
        K Crosby
        Bn k williams, gore, abdullah, cj Anderson, dunbar
        J Landry, g Tate, p harvin, locket
        Cutler, bridge water, tomorrow

        League is standard except it awards one point per 10 return yards

        • RotoLance

          RotoLance says:
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          @Wacha wacha: Yeah I would do that. I think you can generally start Cooper over A Robinson whereas I actually would put Randle behind Gore and behind Karlos w/ McCoy out, like he is this week.

          • Wacha wacha says:
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            @RotoLance:

            Great rationale. Thanks!

  6. chisoxx22 says:
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    Thanks! One more for ya. Trade marshall or cooks for lynch? Ppr, 3 wr league

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:
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      @chisoxx22: Yeah I’d probably take the risk of trading Cooks for Lynch. Actually they are both somewhat risky players right now. It could depend on your next best WR and how big of an upgrade Lynch is. I’m not sure if I’d make the deal for Marshall, he’s been such a beast in PPR, even with some regression built in he might be superior to Lynch considering Lynch has some ??? right now.

  7. Paul says:
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    No mention of Lynch?

    Have Lynch, L. Murray, T. Gurley and Duke Johnson. Rawls is on the wire but if I grab him as insurance for Monday, whoever I drop – of Gurley or Johnson – will be scooped off the wire.

    Can either roll the dice and take a chance on a 0 for Lynch. Play Johnson (or Gurley?) …or grab Rawls who may or may not see the field again this year.

    Your thoughts?

    • RotoLance

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      @Paul: The Lynch situation sucks because of the Monday night game, but I suspect he plays and plays more than he did last week. Tehol was recommending giving Rawls consideration before last weeks game though. I think at this point you should probably be owning Rawls over Duke Johnson. I might do that even if I were 80% sure Lynch was going to play Monday.

  8. WillisReid says:
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    So what your saying is choosing a RB out of my trio of Murray Ellington and Spiller for two spots is like choosing between being shot stabbed or suffocated.

    Grabbed Carlos William last week. Is anyone a RB 2 out of this bunch?

    • WillisReid says:
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      Have Lacy as my RB1.

      • RotoLance

        RotoLance says:
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        @WillisReid: Karlos Williams should be in nearly every lineup where he is owned this week. Hopefully Murray will bounce back by the time McCoy is healthy. Remember what I actually said was “yet if McCoy is going to return to health I think we need to temper our expectations for Williams”. McCoy’s health is key to Williams’ value. You’ve got a great duo to run out there this week.

  9. Steve says:
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    Great information above! I’m looking for some guidance in my 0.5PPR 12 team league…

    WR3 Allen Hurns or Phillip Dorsett (Mike Evans and Keenan Allen are normal starters and Edelman on bye)

    And at RB, I feel like I have a bunch of bad matchups and underperforming players, so I’d love to see what you think…

    2 RBs and a Flex
    RB1: Jamaal Charles
    RB2 and Flex (choose 2): Lamar MIller, Alfred Morris, Chris Johnson and I suppose the loser of the WR battle above if Hurns or Dorsett is a better option than the RBs at the flex

    Thanks for your advice!

    • RotoLance

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      @Steve: Hurns inspires more confidence than Dorsett. Lamar Miller and Chris Johnson at your other spots. Bruce Arians apparently has a reputation for being straight up, so he actually means that he intends to give Chris Johnson 15-20 touches. Whether the game script allows for that to happen, who knows, but I’m comfortable starting CJ. I just checked Jay’s rankings and they happen to agree, I think he’s to low on CJ but he has him above Morris and Dorsett was only 55, Hurns well above him.

  10. NPI says:
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    Std league my team is:
    QB P Manning
    RB1 Lacy
    RB2 D Murray
    WR1 Maclin
    WR2 Marshall
    WB3 Cooks
    TE Eifert
    Bn: Spiler, A Hurns, M Jones, Hillman, and Mariotta

    Crabtree and Boldin are available-is it worth picking them up? If yes who should I drop? Any other suggestions to help my 1-2 team? Thanks

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      RotoLance says:
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      @NPI: I’m not a believer in either Crabtree or Boldin. I don’t see either one passing up Hurns or M Jones on your depth chart, so what’s the point. If you want to grab someone make it a player with a higher ceiling. I think Mariota could possibly be dropped, but I also am guessing there is some specific reason you are holding him. I don’t mind you sticking with what you believe in. I sorta like the rest of your bench and hopefully Cooks and Murray will come around then you’ll be fine.

  11. Dom B says:
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    Flex start Keenan Allen or Steve Smith or Johnthan Stewart

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:
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      @Dom B: I was just going to update on Jonathan Stewart here in the comments section. My guess is he doesn’t play this Sunday.

      I’d stick with Keenan Allen over Smith. Sadly the production for both of them is going to come down, I’m fairly sure they are receiving an unsustainable % of targets.

  12. RotoLance

    RotoLance says:
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    Jonathan Stewart update:

    I think one of either Cameron Artis Payne or Fozzy Whittaker is going to end up starting for Carolina this week… If you’re desperate at RB I”d make a Artis-Payne an acquisition then see what happens.

  13. Gerry says:
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    How are you feeling about Cooks value ROS in a PPR? Trying to decide if I should wait for a rebound or try to deal him. Thanks for your time and the work you do!

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:
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      @Gerry: No one’s feeling great about that entire offense right now. I thought Cooks would be very good in PPR. Going forward, I think we should expect something of a rebound. He’s probably a WR3-ish in PPR, with a realistic chance to ascend back to WR2. If Brees can return to health I think it’s a relatively safe assumption we’ve already seen the worst of their offense.

      Wide receivers are the driving force in PPR so I wouldn’t bail on him for some RB with issues/concerns.

      • Gerry says:
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        @RotoLance: Thanks for the in-depth reply. One last Q for you:

        Was just offered R. Wilson for my A. Dalton and Matt Jones, which side would you prefer. It’s a PPR.

        • RotoLance

          RotoLance says:
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          @Gerry: I think the QBs are close enough in value that Matt Jones swings this over to the Dalton side as the side that “wins”.

  14. CL says:
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    With Luck doubtful as of now, is Moncreif a downgraded play in DFS? Look elsewhere?

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:
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      @CL: I would look elsewhere. In DFS you have so many options, so probably safer just to ignore Moncrief for now.

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