Is there still such a thing as an ACL injury after effect?  Adrian Peterson famously rushed for over 2000 yards the year following a December ACL tear.  Jeremy Maclin turned out to be a 2014 draft day bargain after suffering an ACL tear in the 2013 preseason.  Rob Gronkowski also went undervalued in 2014 drafts after coming off an ACL injury.  Now Todd Gurley is meeting or exceeding his expectations.  The fact is that risk is always built into the value of post ACL tear players, but they have a pretty good recent track record.  I literally can’t think of a single player that failed to come back from an ACL tear in the last few years.  Recently the upside has outweighed the draft cost of buying a player coming off an ACL injury.

Jamaal Charles suffered a torn ACL that will keep him out for the rest of the season.  Expect him back at, or towards, the beginning of next year.  Those of you in keeper or dynasty should probably think of him as having approximate value of a late 2nd rounder in redraft for 2016.  Remember that his age is of chief concern, he’ll turn 30 late next year.  Like Adrian Peterson, I think we can expect him to be effective as an age 30 player but the bottom line is that he’s out of his prime and on the decline.

As far as the specifics of the injury, I have this:  “Jamaal Charles tears ACL in right knee, MRI confirms diagnosis, but Isolated tear is good news” from former sideline injury doctor David Chao.  So the thing that has me somewhat concerned is the combination of coming off an ACL injury and him being nearly thirty years old.  I’m not going to write about the prospects of his incumbents because that’s already been written about in more than one place at Razzball.

Aside from Jamaal Charles I’m not seeing any big injury news.  A lot of players dinged with seemingly minor ailments.  Like Carlos Hyde (foot), who missed practice Wednesday with a foot injury of undisclosed nature.

So as pointed out by the Tweet above, that left Jarryd Hayne (he of one too many “y”s in his name) to receive the first team reps.  So this is quite the situation.  We’ve got an injury of completely unknown (but probably minor) severity to a key player for fantasy football with a backup who’s new to football.  Obviously we need to monitor both Hyde and Reggie Bush.  If Bush were healthy, it is he, not Hayne, that would be expected to handle most of the workload for this Sunday’s game.

And here’s Justin Forsett (ankle sprain):

I haven’t really found much info pertaining to the severity of it, I think that’s a good thing in this case.  Forsett’s would be handcuff, Lorenzo Taliaferro, has now been placed on season ending IR with a foot injury for the second year in a row.  Javorious (aka Buck) Allen is now the only Justin Forsett handcuff to consider.

T.J. Yeldon (groin) has an injury of unknown severity.  This is about all I could find:

What’s noteworthy here is that Denard Robinson practiced in full and he is the handcuff to own.  He’s also tempting even for non-Yeldon owners in 12-team leagues and if Yeldon missed practice on Thursday as well, I think Robinson becomes a player to hold until we know Yeldon’s status.

Alfred Blue (toe) missed Wednesday’s practice, making him even easier to drop.


On the Mend – A look at the situations of players nearing return from injury…

Steve Smith Sr. (back) was already practicing on a limited basis and if he plays this week it will be earlier than I originally predicted.  His teammate Crockett Gillmore (calf) was also back at practice.  For those of you who like Gillmore but dropped him, now would be the time to re-acquire.

LeSean McCoy (hamstring) might very well be healthy again before his teammate, Karlos Williams (concussion), is.  Anthony (Boobie) Dixon is probably worth holding until at least Sunday while we wait to see what’s happening with them.  I’d start McCoy without reservations as soon as he’s active.

Joique Bell (knee) participated fully in practice which primarily has the effect of clouding Ameer Abdullah’s value headed into Sunday.  When Davante Adams (ankle) comes back it will have a negative impact on Ty Montgomery.  Before he re-injured his ankle, Adams was receiving more targets than James Jones.  I no longer expect that to be the case, but Adams probably needs to be rostered soon.  Cecil Shorts (shoulder) had limited participation in practice, his return would negatively impact Keith Mumphery and Jaelen Strong but it also puts Shorts back on the 12 team league radar.

Hopefully Andrew Luck (shoulder) will be able to play this week.  DeSean Jackson (hamstring) is finally making his way back, and he’s another player I’d probably plug into my lineups when he’s active.  His return gives the entire offense a slight boost.

Now I leave you with the practice reports for week 6 of the NFL season and hopefully leave Jay with enough time to get this post up.  These are the same reports that each team is required to give the league after every day of practice.  Teams that play Thursday have a full injury report with the “Out/Doubtful/Questionable/Probable” designations due by Wednesday.  Teams that play Sunday (or Saturday) only have a practice report due Wednesday and teams that play Monday have nothing at all due by Wednesday.

The Practice Report for Wednesday October 15, 2015

Arizona Cardinals
John Brown – WR – No Participation
Darren Fells – TE – Limited Participation

Atlanta Falcons
Devonta Freeman – RB – Full Participation (Probable for Thursday)
Leonard Hankerson – WR – Full Participation (Probable for Thursday)
Julio Jones – WR – Limited Participation (Probable for Thursday)

Baltimore Ravens
Justin Forsett – RB – No Participation
Crockett Gillmore – TE – Limited Participation
Chris Givens – WR – No Participation
Breshad Perriman – WR – No Participation
Steve Smith Sr. – WR – Limited Participation
Darren Waller – WR – No Participation

Buffalo Bills
Charles Clay – TE – Limited Participation
Marcus Easley – WR – No Participation
Percy Harvin – WR – No Participation
Chris Hogan – WR – Limited Participation
LeSean McCoy – RB – Limited Participation
Tyrod Taylor – QB – Limited Participation
Sammy Watkins – WR – Limited Participation
Karlos Williams – RB – No Participation

Carolina Panthers
Richie Brockel – TE – Limited Participation
Jerricho Cotchery – WR – Full Participation

Chicago Bears
Joshua Bellamy – WR – Limited Participation
Alshon Jeffery – WR – Limited Participation
Eddie Royal – WR – No Participation

Cincinnati Bengals
Marvin Jones – WR – Limited Participation
Brandon Tate – WR – No Participation

Cleveland Browns
Isaiah Crowell – RB – Limited Participation
Shaun Draughn – RB – Limited Participation
Brian Hartline – WR – Full Participation
Johnny Manziel – QB – Full Participation
Josh McCown – QB – Limited Participation
Robert Turbin – RB – Limited Participation

Dallas Cowboys
No Practice Information Reported (bye week)

Denver Broncos
Owen Daniels – TE – No Participation
Bennie Fowler – WR – Limited Participation
Cody Latimer – WR – Limited Participation
Peyton Manning – QB – No Participation
Demaryius Thomas – WR – No Participation
Juwan Thompson – RB – No Participation

Detroit Lions
Joique Bell – RB – Full Participation
Eric Ebron – TE – Limited Participation

Green Bay Packers
Davante Adams – WR – Limited Participation
Randall Cobb – WR – Full Participation
James Jones – WR – Limited Participation

Houston Texans
Alfred Blue – RB – No Participation
C.J. Fiedorowicz – TE – Limited Participation
Arian Foster – RB – Limited Participation
Jonathan Grimes – RB – Limited Participation
Chris Polk – RB – Full Participation
Cecil Shorts III – WR – Limited Participation
Nate Washington – WR – No Participation

Indianapolis Colts
Andre Johnson – WR – No Participation
Andrew Luck – QB – Limited Participation
Tyler Varga – RB – No Participation

Jacksonville Jaguars
Blake Bortles – QB – Full Participation
Allen Hurns – WR – No Participation
Marqise Lee – WR – No Participation
Bernard Pierce – RB – No Participation
Denard Robinson – RB – Full Participation
Julius Thomas – TE – Full Participation
T.J. Yeldon – RB – No Participation

Kansas City Chiefs
Travis Kelce – TE – Full Participation
James O’Shaughnessy – TE – Full Participation

Miami Dolphins
Dion Sims – TE – Limited Participation

Minnesota Vikings
Charles Johnson – WR – Limited Participation
Mike Wallace – WR – No Participation
Jarius Wright – WR – Full Participation

New England Patriots

New Orleans Saints
Marques Colston – WR – No Participation (Doubtful for Thursday)

New York Giants
No Practice Information Reported (Monday Night Football)

New York Jets
Jeff Cumberland – TE – Limited Participation
Eric Decker – WR – Full Participation
Chris Ivory – RB – Full Participation
Chris Owusu – WR – No Participation
Bilal Powell – RB – Limited Participation

Oakland Raiders
No Practice Information Reported (bye week)

Philadelphia Eagles
No Practice Information Reported (Monday Night Football)

Pittsburgh Steelers
Ben Roethlisberger – QB – Limited Participation

San Diego Chargers
Stevie Johnson – WR – No Participation

Seattle Seahawks
Marshawn Lynch – RB – Limited Participation

San Francisco 49ers
Reggie Bush – RB – No Participation
Vernon Davis – TE – Limited Participation
Carlos Hyde – RB – No Participation
Vance McDonald – TE – Limited Participation

St. Louis Rams
No Practice Information Reported (bye week)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
No Practice Information Reported (bye week)

Tennessee Titans
Anthony Fasano – TE – Limited Participation

Washington Football Team
Pierre Garcon – WR – Full Participation
DeSean Jackson – WR – Limited Participation
Matt Jones – RB – Limited Participation
Jordan Reed – TE – No Participation
Chris Thompson – RB – Full Participation

I’m happy to discuss any situation I missed or to elaborate on anything you want.  Comment below!



Lance is also available on Twitter, @RotoLance.

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:

      @Dom B: QB Eli Manning
      RB GIo B.
      FLEX K Allen
      TE Rich Rogers

  1. Sick em Fritz says:

    Great article!

    Question, I need a wr3, (my Martavis and Lafell shares aren’t going to pay off for at least another week or two) who is a better gamble the next two weeks: Dwayne Harris or Stefon Diggs?

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:

      @Sick em Fritz: Jarius Wright and Charles Johnson are getting healthy so I don’t trust the Vikings coaches to give Diggs many snaps.

      Dwayne Harris.

  2. pbmax says:

    Good Stuff! Thanks for putting this together. Is Beckham a go you think? He’s listed as questionable on ESPN.

    • pbmax says:

      @pbmax: Also for a flex start: Matt Jones, Kamar Aiken or Torrey Smith?

      • RotoLance

        RotoLance says:

        @pbmax: I didn’t write Beckham because I didn’t consider his injury serious enough but then I ended up putting a bunch of other guys with injuries that don’t seem serious.. so whoops. I do think he’s a go.

        Aiken > Jones > Smith unless maybe Steve Smith plays then it becomes closer between Aiken and Jones. Torrey just scares the bejeezus out of me.

        • pbmax says:

          @RotoLance: thanks! I keep wanting to drop Torrey but then you know he’s going to have one of his 3 20+ pts weeks a season.

  3. Bob Wetlands says:

    .5 ppr league what side would you rather have

    Eddie lacy, Delanie Walker, Deasean Jackson, Duke Johnson Jr.

    Chris Ivory, Tyler Eifert, John Brown.

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:

      @Bob Wetlands: Lacy side. I think the only way Ivory side wins is if Eifert is the 3rd best player from both lists, which is possible, I suppose.

  4. Orlando says:

    I have j charles,mcfadden, j. Bell and woodhead

    Should I trade Greg olsen for chacandrick west?

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:

      @Orlando: Ugh. I could see that. Depends on who you have in mind to replace Olsen. Good luck.

      • Orlando says:


        Owen daniels or ladarius green

        • RotoLance

          RotoLance says:

          @Orlando: I don’t know.. I can’t really endorse it or disapprove of it. I guess it’s worth the risk, which is to say I think you are getting the riskier side of the deal, but maybe slightly greater upside as well. Green is the higher ceiling play over Daniels.

          • Orlando says:


            Thanks for the knowledge

  5. Scooter G says:

    Hey there

    How would you rank these RBs ROS in 10 team standard
    A lot of murkey RB situations out there! I realize a lot depends on who wins/ keeps their starting jobs but can you rank them in order of who you would most want to own?

    CJ Anderson, A Abdullah, K Davis, R Matthews, C Michael, A Bradshaw, A Andrews, J Allen


    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:

      @Scooter G: Yeah this is tough for exactly the reasons you say. Rest of season rankings are hard for a bunch of players that are fairly close together. With that in mind..

      CJ Anderson, Abdullah, Andrews, Michael, Davis, Allen, Mathews. That’s not so much the order they’ll necessarily finish but the order I’d own them in.

      • RotoLance

        RotoLance says:

        @Paul: @RotoLance: I forgot Bradshaw, he’s somewhere in the middle, after Michael.. I guess after Davis as well.

  6. Paul says:

    if i want to add devante parker who should i drop from by running backs i have todd gurly, cj spiller, doug martin, joe randle, knile davis, david johnson, matt jones, and ahmid bradshaw…. i have bean loading up because everyone has been struggling except gurly and martin

    so any one else is droppable? what is the best move i obviously can’t keep everyone

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:

      @Paul: Matt Jones or Ahmad Bradshaw are the first one(s) I’d chop. If C West turns gets nearly all of the work Sunday then maybe you drop K Davis to try to get back Jones/Bradshaw.

  7. Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:

    d-jax had another issue, he’s probably not as likely as it looked before that.

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:

      @Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo: I also saw where a player, Carlos Hyde I believe, was practicing Thursday but then left the practice with a foot injury.

  8. Dom B says:

    Would you trade Steve Smith and John Brown for Demaryius Thomas… Even with his struggles he is still a WR 1 right.

    My Roster 10 Man standard league

    QB Phillip Rivers
    RB Leveon Bell
    RB Latavius Murray
    WR Julio Jones
    WR AJ Green
    TE Jason Witten
    Flex Keenan Allen
    QB ElI Manning
    RB Jonathan Stewart
    WR Steve Smith
    RB Richard Rodgers

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:

      @Dom B: The only negative I can see in that deal is it gives you more of a lineup headache deciding between D Thomas and K Allen at flex week in and week out. That’s a good problem to have.

      • Dom B says:

        @RotoLance: if I get the trade I would trade D Thomas and either Lativis Murray or Gio for an RB 1 so I have two RBs 1

        • RotoLance

          RotoLance says:

          @Dom B: I was thinking the same thing. I’d have to assume that D. Thomas would be a more valuable trade piece than Smith + Brown.

          • NinjaPlz says:


            If you own D. Thomas, would you accept Smith and J. Brown for him.
            Ninja Plz!
            Try again
            It’s easy to ask would you do this or do that, but people always ask ludicrous one sided offers, like of course you should do that trade.
            There are many dumb owners out there for sure, but when sending any offer, put yourself in their shoes, would you accept the ludicrous offer you are sending?
            If not about needs as most people think.. Example.. He a needs a RB, I’m gonna give him a C minus RB and a B Wr for his A+ Player.

            That’s not how any of this works

  9. P says:

    Tyrod Taylor? He’s my backup I’ve been using since my qb1 is romo. Is Taylor gonna play or what? Thanks.

    • RotoLance

      RotoLance says:

      @P: He’ll probably play, but he’s a riskier fantasy play now.

      • P says:

        @RotoLance: thanks! My waiver wire options are Fitzpatrick, bridgewater, and mccown (don’t know his status either) — any of them worth picking up to start this week over tyrod? I’m leaning toward bridgewater.

  10. Landisimo3 says:

    Pick 2 of these 3 TE’s to hold onto going forward…


    Thank You!!

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