RazzBowl7 Week 13 Update

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I picked the wrong time to go on holiday.

“But I’ve been surprised before. I’ll wait and see.”

That’s what I said at the end of the update last week. GoldRazz warned me, and thanks to him, I know the playoff format in the literature on the Rules page of our leagues is not what is being presented in the results. I can say with confidence that our individual results are correct. I want to thank all who have reached out.

I said in the early stages of the tournament that I’m accountable for the information I send. I’ve been communicating what I understand. The understanding is my responsibility, and I’ve never willingly misled. But there’s a saying about intentions. If you have blame to give, give it to me, and only me.

Briefly, Round 2 began in Week 13. It appears that, while 36 teams are remaining in the Championship Tier, 16 of those came from the Championship Tier at the end of Round 1, and 20 came from the Wild Card Tier at the end of Round 1. This follows closely to the other Cutline Tournaments at NFFC. Again, I thank GoldRazz for pointing this out to me. I’m not sure the tables we are seeing after Week 13 are accurate. I do believe Round 2 will end after Week 14, and as our tournament is a smaller scale than a typical NFFC Cutline league, I need to check into the instructions I have.

I am working with someone at NFFC to figure all this out. My goal is to change the inconsistencies and have confidence in what I’m saying and what we’ll see moving forward. I’d like us to build a community here, and that begins with communication. I will soon be able to tell you what will happen next, but I wanted to provide an update now.

This is the Championship Tier after Week 13; I have removed the “Cutlines” presented on the site, because I don’t believe they’re accurate:

Razzball – Championship Tier – Round 2
Rank	Team	League	Draft Pos	Overall Pts	RS AVG	RD 1 AVG	Week 13	Rank Change
1	@Nrok10307	1016	10	481.60	173.87	148.53	159.20	2
2	@RobbHarkey	1022	3	470.24	148.64	141.45	180.15	5
3	@PVCLARK	1010	2	464.26	172.16	125.55	166.55	10
4	@Supertom	1013	4	448.72	171.87	152.50	124.35	-2
5	Bishop Sycamore	1008	4	447.66	156.38	152.28	139.00	1
6	@CantALoupe_44	1012	8	447.33	169.63	147.55	130.15	-2
7	@PepeSilva2	1006	10	439.62	169.87	167.65	102.10	-6
8	GoldRazz	1009	11	432.08	168.75	126.08	137.25	6
9	@reedg17	1024	8	430.71	157.46	128.40	144.85	7
10	@WazNFL	1018	9	430.43	153.88	151.65	124.90	-7
11	@Jefferson RB	1023	1	425.74	151.56	137.23	136.95	1
12	@gregsauce	1012	2	425.26	156.93	134.03	134.30	-4
13	@ColbyConway	1008	2	421.68	149.90	141.93	129.85	-7
14	@kilobravo	1015	9	419.02	156.27	136.60	126.15	-3
15	@abehrens	1008	8	418.17	152.34	152.88	112.95	-13
16	@cardinalsfan73	1010	3	413.84	153.89	147.20	112.75	-8
17	@Yesac10	1007	12	413.70	144.35	127.45	141.90	-4
18	@Norton0723	1023	11	413.06	148.91	120.25	143.90	0
19	@mmmbogy	1010	6	410.76	148.33	119.08	143.35	1
20	@fornekdf	1019	4	408.79	157.09	143.90	107.80	-11
21	@crewser128	1022	2	407.96	157.21	150.90	99.85	-14
22	@bfish300	1017	9	406.63	152.45	124.53	129.65	-10
23	@Jsmithhh55	1016	7	405.88	150.73	150.40	104.75	-19
24	@Walk_FF	1021	4	405.54	151.91	157.13	96.50	-23
25	@Sontzu	1014	7	405.16	149.36	146.60	109.20	-20
26	@UnclePiff44	1006	12	403.30	155.22	142.83	105.25	-16
27	@TDFriarFan	1025	12	398.14	153.36	120.23	124.55	-10
28	Flying Spaghetti Monsters	1012	11	395.18	156.38	124.75	114.05	-17
28	@Windows	1010	10	395.18	152.10	117.28	125.80	-9
30	@rotobuzzguy	1011	11	394.12	160.62	152.00	81.50	-25
31	@Cbersie	1022	8	392.53	162.25	127.03	103.25	-16
32	@JHowardJR	1024	9	387.85	151.45	127.55	108.85	-22
33	@Jac3600	1023	5	375.96	149.68	133.93	92.35	-24
34	@buffalopanther	1021	6	370.72	150.62	122.40	97.70	-19
35	@John0676	1017	11	368.39	154.34	120.50	93.55	-19
36	Super DeMario Bros	1015	7	343.05	155.25	120.85	66.95	-22

@NRok10307 has moved into the overall lead. My leaguemate, @RobbHarvey, has the Week 13 high score. Showoff.

And the Wild Card Tier after Week 13:

Razzball – Wild Card Tier – Round 2
Rank	Team	League	Draft Pos	Overall Pts	RS AVG	RD 1 AVG	Week 13	Rank Change
1	@kurtobrown	1023	9	423.84	161.99	122.60	139.25	19
2	@vague11	1011	6	417.69	144.84	99.35	173.50	36
3	@amnicholson	1019	8	410.03	157.28	121.70	131.05	18
4	@aerokk	1018	4	407.02	160.04	115.63	131.35	23
5	@camarcano	1025	1	406.41	174.66	105.60	126.15	26
6	@maskdmirag	1020	10	404.24	168.04	121.55	114.65	12
7	@Toledobrad	1021	10	400.38	158.53	119.60	122.25	17
8	@jeffrotull44	1025	3	399.92	156.04	122.03	121.85	14
9	@nahefley0	1025	4	399.81	151.48	107.13	141.20	17
10	@PaulRyan17	1020	5	399.41	160.58	125.23	113.60	9
11	@johnnyinsley	1007	9	399.01	165.56	112.60	120.85	17
12	@enricopallazzo	1024	2	398.64	153.76	122.93	121.95	11
13	@scott7713	1011	1	396.55	157.87	101.28	137.40	18
14	@brichter1	1021	3	395.03	161.10	115.28	118.65	12
15	@thegamersdome	1018	3	394.94	155.74	115.15	124.05	15
16	@Urkedout	1016	9	393.42	154.42	91.95	147.05	23
17	Jenstad RB	1007	4	390.75	162.97	112.63	115.15	12
18	@hecapps	1017	7	385.86	154.46	94.65	136.75	20
19	@NickBSpencer	1020	6	381.20	156.97	106.38	117.85	5
20	@Gmchome05	1016	12	380.25	158.82	127.03	94.40	-3
21	@ttheaney	1021	11	379.80	146.50	100.95	132.35	16
22	@Mkim521	1014	5	379.45	149.60	105.05	124.80	13
23	@sjc1219	1017	5	378.87	155.59	120.48	102.80	2
24	@Jherrlich	1019	12	376.30	150.10	109.30	116.90	1
25	@Lunchmade	1011	7	367.72	161.57	102.80	103.35	9
26	@Gennylight	1020	12	365.04	145.56	118.93	100.55	-5
27	Poor Little Pinkus	1019	5	364.83	149.75	105.28	109.80	5
28	@TheGreatKnoche	1020	2	364.65	156.27	107.78	100.60	-6
29	@Puggy	1023	3	363.72	149.77	89.50	124.45	13
30	@CubbieBearz 76	1011	2	363.62	151.79	98.93	112.90	5
31	@RotoSurgeon	1008	6	362.16	161.41	104.15	96.60	2
32	@FrankChapa3	1018	2	361.38	155.50	104.28	101.60	-3
33	@afvoo	1010	8	361.34	151.26	107.23	102.85	-6
34	@MarinerMuse	1015	2	355.53	152.33	102.60	100.60	-1
35	@themaldie	1013	7	354.00	161.75	97.55	94.70	2
36	@Nflostcause	1014	2	353.74	152.24	111.05	90.45	-4
37	@jtminutes	1009	1	352.32	150.19	92.98	109.15	4
38	@AndyHallRadio	1013	3	351.47	152.27	74.30	124.90	13
39	@BBolf	1015	12	350.32	149.62	82.00	118.70	10
40	@BGFS	1022	7	344.48	150.68	106.20	87.60	-10
41	@MikeFromLI	1012	9	340.71	169.88	94.83	76.00	-5
42	@tsper	1017	1	338.05	149.22	83.68	105.15	5
43	Hammertime	1019	11	337.78	153.55	108.73	75.50	-20
44	@NMimi	1009	9	337.52	163.72	73.85	99.95	-4
45	@DraftBuddy	1014	9	334.98	146.35	86.98	101.65	1
46	@NotBurtReynolds	1007	5	334.85	149.35	87.60	97.90	-2
47	@Beltre29	1018	7	333.45	147.00	88.30	98.15	-2
48	@JustinMason	1009	2	331.75	156.60	62.60	112.55	5
49	@Ravery970	1016	2	330.33	150.50	99.73	80.10	-15
50	@Mikelaplant	1024	6	329.78	153.13	97.70	78.95	-14
51	@aaronschill27	1009	8	329.38	150.20	88.03	91.15	-8
52	@Jonnyroto	1012	12	328.85	148.87	65.93	114.05	3
53	@FantasyStar304	1015	3	328.34	159.16	83.03	86.15	-14
54	QUENTIN JOHNSONS BUTTERFINGERS	1006	9	325.03	146.83	83.15	95.05	-4
55	@jhersh12	1025	10	322.97	146.72	109.35	66.90	-27
56	@JLatzke	1024	1	322.88	150.95	61.98	109.95	2
57	@ShermanTank474	1013	1	322.53	150.05	93.83	78.65	-17
58	@caochad	1022	5	311.94	148.04	82.95	80.95	-10
59	@Kavlick	1013	5	302.70	149.52	63.23	89.95	-2
60	@bropat	1007	7	302.55	154.17	51.03	97.35	-1
61	@SLawrence603	1006	8	298.68	152.45	71.38	74.85	-9
62	@wweiler	1006	3	294.61	147.38	52.48	94.75	-2
63	Postmodern S’mores	1014	3	274.25	147.20	66.35	60.70	-7
64	@fadethatman	1008	1	274.18	150.28	65.40	58.50	-10

It was a nice week for @vague11! As I had my lowest weekly score of the season, you can give me tips on how to set a lineup.

As you can see, the scores from Week 13 are lower than we’re used to. For the last three weeks, total points per game in the NFL have been well below the levels in the 2024 season, and have been well below what the bettors believe will be scored.

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Waivers are no longer available. Our teams now will be our teams for the rest of the season.
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- From the “My Teams” page in NFFC at https://nfc.shgn.com/myTeams click on the link for your team name to get there, or
- From the “League Home” page of the division at https://nfc.shgn.com/league there is a “League Information” window to the right; from there click on the “Modify: Set Lineup” link.

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Scott Gerhardt says:
December 3, 2025 at 6:05 pm (link)

So I’m a little confused. Does that mean that the old playoff format is now gone and we’re using a different system, or are you working with NFFC to get the tournament to match the original rules. Admittedly I am biased, as I am one of the 14 people who thought I would still be in the Championship tier but now find ourselves in the Wild Card Tier, which is definitely rough as some of the people who got promoted to Championship Tier had worse weeks than those in Championship Tier and got demoted.

I know this is a headache and a half for you and I don’t envy your position at all. I’m just looking for some firm clarification what we’re dealing with moving forward. Your words made me think you’re trying to fix it, but posting those current results makes it feel like we’re just seeing where the ride takes us.

Understand this is not criticism at all as I know you guys are doing your best here and are dealing with some things out of your control. Just trying to figure out if I should be playing more for the floor or for the ceiling.

- Crews says:
  December 4, 2025 at 12:32 pm (link)
  
  Hi Scott:
  I understand your confusion.
  I didn’t say because I don’t know, and I’m still trying to get clarification. I asked two differing questions about the format and got affirmative answers to both. That tells me that the person I’m asking questions of might not know the answer.
  So far, the first round of our playoffs followed the standard NFFC Cutline format: 40% of the Championship Tier advanced, and the rest went to the Wild Card Tier. The top 20 in the Wild Card Tier moved to the Championship Tier.
  I’m concerned about not knowing what happens next. Using the instructions I’ve seen for the stock Cutline produces fractions. Those rules were written for larger tournaments. I’ve made my concerns plain to the people who should be supporting this besides myself. I’m going to give this another day to get an answer.
  The only results I posted this week are the ones showing where each individual is at. That’s the data. The rest is presentation, and I used what people are seeing on the NFFC site.
  I want the messaging to be consistent. That’s a compromise. My preference is that we follow what I’ve been telling our members, and that’s what the NFFC site is telling our members. I’m preparing for the possibility I may not get everything I want.
  
Crews says:
December 4, 2025 at 12:30 pm (link)

Hi Scott:
I understand your confusion.
I didn’t say because I don’t know, and I’m still trying to get clarification. I asked two differing questions about the format and got affirmative answers to both. That tells me that the person I’m asking questions of might not know the answer.
So far, the first round of our playoffs followed the standard NFFC Cutline format: 40% of the Championship Tier advanced, and the rest went to the Wild Card Tier. The top 20 in the Wild Card Tier moved to the Championship Tier.
I’m concerned about not knowing what happens next. Using the instructions I’ve seen for the stock Cutline produces fractions. Those rules were written for larger tournaments. I’ve made my concerns plain to the people who should be supporting this besides myself. I’m going to give this another day to get an answer.
The only results I posted this week are the ones showing where each individual is at. That’s the data. The rest is presentation, and I used what people are seeing on the NFFC site.
I want the messaging to be consistent. That’s a compromise. My preference is that we follow what I’ve been telling our members, and that’s what the NFFC site is telling our members. I’m preparing for the possibility I may not get everything I want.

Eddie 0 says:
December 4, 2025 at 5:16 pm (link)

Sup Crews in a 2 qb start league im debating on dropping daniel jones or Caleb williams for week.16 for bryce young. Both have tough schedules and jones playing with fractured leg. Would you drop one for young.

Currently have miami defense this week vs jets. Need a win this week to make playoffs an im playing the first place team. Look for a big upside swing for defense and kicker. Currently have dolphins defense at jets and loop at home vs steelers. Would you consider any of the following defenses over dolphins. Commanders, titans, Ravens, Vikings, jets , saints, packers. Im eyeing the titans i think the game is gonna be really low scoring vs browns. 33.5 current over under.

Any Kickers over loop? Current FA Prater, Melvis, mcmanus, lutz, santos, Patterson, lutz, folk, Reichard, Gonzalez, szymt, grupe ryland, moody,smyth, slye

Thanks

- Crews says:
  December 4, 2025 at 6:19 pm (link)
  
  Hi Eddie:
  Thanks for your questions!
  First, absent weather information, as it’s too early to get an accurate forecast for Week 16, I’d drop Jones against the 49ers. I understand why you want Bryce Young. For me, he’s too TD-dependent, but the Panthers keep winning games we expect them to lose, and that game against the Bucs is attractive.
  As far as defenses go, points allowed aren’t the metric I’m interested in; it’s the potential to generate sacks and turnovers. Of the teams you have listed, I’d go Packers, then Titans. The Vikings are all right, but their offense can put them in tough spots. The Ravens, Jets, and Commanders are bad defenses; the opponent is not likely to change that. The Saints could be a dark horse, but it still doesn’t put them above Green Bay or Tennessee, and I’d like them better at home. Check and see if Jacksonville is available. I don’t think they’ll hold back trying to pressure Daniel Jones.
  For your kicker, Loop’s all right, I think the Ravens will find their mojo against the Steelers. Of the others, I love Lutz in Las Vegas: good team vs bad team, indoor stadium; also Melvis in Glendale vs the Cards should have points and is also indoors. I’ll pass on the others.
  I hope this helps! If you get a chance, join us for our Sunday Start/Sit Show on the Razzball YouTube channel (@RazzballFantasy) starting at 11:00 a.m. EST (or thereabouts).

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