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An enthralling Thursday Night Football game? What is this dark wizardry you speak of? In a game that immediately started off with a Patriots touchdown in the first minute and a half, reminding us that it was, in fact, Thursday night, the Jets managed to respond with a scoring drive of their own. Sure, that drive and the next two successful ones all ended in field goals, but there was a level competency that I didn’t think the Jets were capable of. Of course, things fall apart, the center cannot hold, something-something, wax poetic, and the 27-25 Patriots led game came down to a field goal at the 58-yard line, which ended up being blocked. There were your usual Jets/Patriot hallmarks though, including such timeless moments as: Rex Ryan angry! Jets excruciating hard-earned first downs! Brady not getting called for intentional grounding, ever! (The one to Vereen and to Gronk, I was closer to the ball watching from home.) And of course a dirty below the knees hit on a quarterback not named Tom Brady that doesn’t get called! But that’s now two games in a row on Thursday that have been quite entertaining, perhaps teasing us for an even better match-up between the Chargers and Broncos next week. Which means it’ll probably suck.

 

Jets – 25, Patriots – 27

Tom Brady – 20/37, 261 YDS, 3 TD. Seriously, why do you put a graphic up about Brady’s winning percentage? Is anyone watching the game unaware how many game the Patriots have won with him? Do we really need this information?

Shane Vereen – 11 CAR, 43 YDS and 5 REC, 71 YDS, 2 TD. While Vereen’s touchdown celebration was a respectful gesture to the injured Steven Ridley, it also seemed to be a possible example of him not expecting to score a touchdown that early and having nothing prepared.

Brandon Bolden – 1 REC, 4 YDS. I feel like I could have done this. Why does he get to have his job? I’m available, just saying. His role might expand, just like how Emma Stone might go out on a date with me.

Rob Gronkowski – 5 REC, 68 YDS. GRONK START. Seems almost like a victory in of itself.

Danny Amendola – 1 REC, 19 YDS, 1 TD. “Danny, you just caught your first and only touchdown of the season, what are you going to do next?” “I’M GOING TO DISNEYLAND! (After my season-ending surgery.)”

Geno Smith – 20/34, 226 YDS, 1 TD and 7 CAR, 37 YDS. Geno better get a patent on that run-back-and-sack move he does. That being said, he looked good, not great. While the talent is there, playing at a consistent level is still eluding him, but he showed good poise and limited a lot of mistakes. Which means next week, he’ll throw three interceptions.

Chris Ivory – 21 CAR, 107 YDS, 1 TD and 4 REC, 18 YDS. If pandas could run as hard and as fast as Ivory, maybe they wouldn’t be so endangered.

Chris Johnson – 13 CAR, 61 YDS and 2 REC, 19 YDS. Holy sh*t. Chris Johnson is still playing? I thought he died or something.

Jace Amaro – 3 REC, 22 YDS. I believe “Amaro” is Latin for “I dropped it”.

  1. OMGZ WHY U RANK VEREEN SO LOWWWWW. (kidding)

    Man do I feel like an ass for over-thinking Vereen. Then again, he has an excellent chance of dropping a near-goose egg or a performance like this through the end of the year. Hard to argue with him as a big boom/big bust Flex, though. Maybe even crazy-high ceiling low end RB2 for PPR, since if you took back his huge break out run and TDs, he’d still have put up double digits (pretty respectable).

    I’m starting to think if people don’t count on weeks like this with him, but if they see his floor as about 10 touches split between runs and catches, then I see him having good value.

    Your thoughts on Vereen going forward after this?

    (Side note, if J Graham starts, what are your feelings on him this week?)

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Slob on my Cobb: To be fair, he wasn’t that low, then again, the way he had been used, I struggled with the fact of ranking him so high. I’m still iffy, as the Patriots still look pretty bad if you take out the Cincy game. It’ll be interesting to see what they can do when playing against good teams.

      • Slob on my Cobb says:
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        @Jay:

        I think you had him ranked very well based on his uncertainty, I just wanted to Razz you (or Razz-ball you?).

        But you’re right, I wanna see what else this team can do with their run game; they only gained like 65 yards on the ground in the game and went passing most of the time since they had to compete against a rather poor team. Doesn’t seem to bode well for other match ups, though their schedule is a mixed bag of should-crush-em and running-game-graveyard.

        This is why I also hold off on putting much stock into Vereen, in addition to all his other strikes against him.

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @Slob on my Cobb: Oh yeah, just made me wonder why I ranked him at area. I’ve had zero faith in him for a while, but the Jets match up was a good one I felt. But it’s clear, over the years, that don’t need to rush to create space. A lot of screens, check downs, dump offs, etc.

          • Slob on my Cobb says:
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            @Jay:

            Good point. He did have that baller gain early on through the air, which I guess is where most of his value lies: pulling in as many receptions as possible.

            He had a butt ton of targets last night. I don’t expect that to keep up, but if he can net 5+ targets a game and have a shot on tearing one off, that may be enough to keep him in a starting lineup on a PPR team. Especially one like mine where all my hopes and dreams rely on Julio, Cobb, Graham, Gronk, and Floyd. RB is a bonus.

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              @Slob on my Cobb: i will be very happy with vereen doing 65 and having that many targets as yesterday, at least till miller/mathews/ingram all show up as useful in the same week. From the minute before i read about the moreno injury to watching last night’s game i went from badly worried about the state of my RB’s in a 2 RB only PPR league to quite happy with that state. Miller back to being a starter, Vereen was actually used as a RB, AND got targets (i think Jay may have been the only one saying this might happen, many others were all up on bolden), all so nice.

              • Jay

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                @goodfold2: I actually thought Bolden would be relevant too, seeing as how we saw a bunch of him in the past when Ridley would fumble. But as always with Belichick, I’m a bit clueless.

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                  @Jay:there was a report that bolden wouldn’t be used much from scrimmage due to his usage on special teams which it seemed at least 80% of people simply ignored/intentionally disbelieved (understandable this, admittedly, plus he had been useful in previous years in similar situations) to the extent that others had him over other pickups this week.

            • Jay

              Jay says:
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              @Slob on my Cobb: Yes, if he gets 5+ targets, that’s PPR value right there.

  2. Blake says:
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    Do you think Vereen will get the majority of touches from week to week or is this just Patriots so you don’t know?

    Would it be worth to trade vereen for Keenan Allen?

    QB: C Palmer
    WR: D Hopkins
    WR: D Thomas
    WR: R Randle
    RB: R Hillman
    RB: B Sankey
    TE: R Gronkowski
    B: L McCoy – Bye
    B:N Foles – Bye
    B: S Vereen
    B: M Ball
    B: M Crabtree
    B: J Gordon
    B: J Reed

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Blake: I’d want Allen. I’m still iffy on Vereen.

  3. BTDRNKS says:
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    Any thoughts on Jonas Gray getting more carries than Bolden? In the limited snaps he had, he looked powerful and decisive, much like he did pre-season.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @BTDRNKS: I could definitely see this.

  4. Dom B says:
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    ROS Rashad Jennings or Fred Jackson

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Dom B: Jackson, very slightly.

  5. Dom B says:
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    So I want Jennings as a giants fan but this guy wants crabtree and Jackson for Jennings should i or hold

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Dom B: That seems like an overpay. Jackson by himself should have been able to do it.

  6. Zandy says:
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    would you want to own Ivory or rather own Mason, Spiller, McKinnon?
    0.5 PPR other RBs: Bradshaw Lamar Jennings Joique
    only start 2 each week, thanks!

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Zandy: Ivory, but Mason would be my second choice.

      • Annie's Boobs says:
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        @Jay: Jay, ROS would own Ivory over Joique, Hillman or Mathews? Same league settings as Zandy’s.

  7. KnileIsNotJustA... says:
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    Pick 3 in PPR- P. Thomas, Sproles, Beckham, Royal, Ivory, D. Adams.

  8. The don says:
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    Who gets the start Johnathan stewart or isaiah crowell

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @The don: Smokey has said Crowell, which seems like a homerun choice. The safe pick for me is JStew. Just depends how your roster is shaping up this week.

  9. Dom B says:
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    Hey the guy will only do a rb and wr for Jennings so do I do F jax and crabtree for Jennings or Doug martin and TY Hilton/Kelvin Benjamin for Jennings or hold Thx!!!!!

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Dom B: I would do the FJax and Crabtree for Jennings.

  10. KnileIsNotJustA... says:
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    P. Thomas or Royal in PPR?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @KnileIsNotJustA…: Close, leaning Thomas here, but I can’t tell if it’s because I’m overcompensating for trying to avoid being bias.

  11. Jason says:
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    How do you feel about L. Bell for Gio? Or Antonio brown and R. Bush for gio and Terrance william/Andre Holmes

    • Jason says:
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      @Jason: my bell and my brown/bush

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Jason: I’d rather have Bell. I’d do Bush for that combo in a second. I’d probably want Williams there.

  12. Jack says:
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    PPR flex – Welker, Boldin, or Cooks?

    • Jack says:
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      Or Gates?

      • Jay

        Jay says:
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        @Jack: Oo, hard to say, he could put in a huge game against the Chiefs. Or he could not be targeted at all. He’s your big risk/reward guy here.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Jack: Welker.

  13. matt says:
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    Edelman has been pretty shitty 3 out of last 4 weeks. Does he suck now? Do I start Terrence Williams over him in the future. He got 9 targets but bleh…

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @matt: I like Williams a bit more after last nights game, sure.

  14. Clint says:
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    Got some “who would you rather” ppr league questions for you Jay:

    Maclin or Reuben Randle as bye week fill in and/or flex?
    Palmer or Dalton at QB3?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Clint: Maclin and Palmer.

  15. Wilsonian says:
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    Trying to decide who to drop, if anyone, for my last IDP. I’m up 24.94-9.30 after last night. I had Brady as my QB2 and he had Gronk at TE. Think I should drop anyone, or hope that the 5-10 points out of an IDP won’t matter?

    QB – Ryan
    WR – Jones
    WR – Smith, Sr.
    WR – Hilton
    RB – Forte
    RB – Tate
    TE – Kelce
    W/R – Oliver
    Q/W/R/T – Brady
    BN – Edelman
    BN – Wallace
    BN – Bell
    BN – Vereen
    BN – Bradshaw
    BN – Graham
    BN – Reed

    K – Hauschka

    DEF – Arizona

    D – Kuechly
    D – EMPTY

    0.5 PPR – 3 Point Bonus at 250 yards pass/85 yards rec/100 yards rush – 6 Point Bonus at 335 yards pass/135 yards rec/150 yards rush

  16. Rex Ryan's Feet says:
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    We are not Gellin.

  17. Big W says:
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    Hey Jay,

    Demarco Murray will be my RB1 this week… I have mixed feelings about my RB2 and it’s between:

    McFadden, Joseph Randle and Stacy… I was leaning McFadden, but then I was thinking maybe Randle and Murray can both have productive weeks….and then I’m like, damn Stacy, why can’t I trust you!!!

    What do you think for my RB2 this week? Thanks in advance…

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Big W: It sucks, yeah, but I think you have to go Stacy there.

  18. Steve Stevenson says:
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    0.5 PPR, pick 4 for pure upside–my team sucks and I want my bench to be potential home runs. Position doesn’t really matter, though a slight bias toward RB as we only start 2WR and I have 2 pretty good ones (Dez and Benjamin, with Roddy as potential flex or bench). Is it the top 4 RB? Does Rainey make the cut in case he’s starting out of the bye? Does Evans creep ahead of an RB?

    RB:
    K. Davis
    Ball
    Hill
    Hyde
    Rainey
    Helu
    Blue
    S-Jax

    WR:
    Evans
    Shorts

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Steve Stevenson: Pure upside… I’d go Hyde, Evans, Hill, Davis.

  19. Lopes says:
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    I already did the trade, so please tell me i did a good job–haha. In a 12 team half ppr league I desperately needed running backs (i was rolling with CJ Spiller and Zac Stacy). I traded Matt Ryan, CJ Spiller, Zac Stacy and Terrence Williams for Arian Foster, Nick Foles and James Jones. Im waiting for Rashad Jennings to get healthy to be my RB2, but for now I am rolling with Isaiah Crowell. Im 4-2 so an upgrade in RB without giving up Demaryius Thomas or Julio Jones.

    • Steve Stevenson says:
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      @Lopes: I like it

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Lopes: It’s a fair trade. I don’t have a probably with it at all.

  20. Dom B says:
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    Eddie lacy and crabtree for just McCoy too much

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Dom B: I’m okay with it actually. I’d do it.

  21. Dom B says:
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    Andre Ellington RB 1 or 2

    Eddie Lacy RB 1 or 2

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Dom B: Both 2’s right now, but Lacy can be a 1.

  22. tony says:
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    Need some help with a defensive, slept threw the waiver wire! Smh lol
    I was thinking Cowboys D & hoping eli is eli
    Pretty much only good D left….

    Thanks again

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @tony: Yeah, it’s a good risk/reward option there.

  23. DiRo says:
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    I understand why you ranked Veteen where you did. With out those 2 TD passes he would have her low numbers as one was totally unexpected and the other Brady had LaFell open in the endzone but went to Vereen.

    I started J Bell and Hilman over him in 2 leagues and I am a Pats fan so that hurt a little. I hope those 2 guys put up decent yardage and get me at least 1 TD.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @DiRo: As a Pats fan, owning Vereen must have been frustrating the first 6 weeks. I just couldn’t stand the lack of usage. It’s a good sign, last nights game, but the Patriots do have some problems at offense that weren’t solved just by beating the Bengals. I’m cautious here, but I think Vereen is still PPR useful.

  24. Zandy says:
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    Sproles was dropped in my 0.5 ppr. Pick him up and stash over mason?

    He’s be behind
    Jennings joique
    Lamar Bradshaw

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Zandy: Eh. Honestly, I’d rather have Mason. Might have more clarity after this weekend, but I really want to see how that RBBC emerges. Just watching the Rams game, Mason looked so much better with the ball than Stacy.

  25. Dom B says:
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    Hey does Percy Harvin lose all fantasy relevance being traded to the jets

    • goodfold2 says:
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      @Dom B: if you at all liked his relevance with the previous team i would think double it now. Rex playing for a job. I don’t think SEA is stupid, so something could be wrong, or they just realized they don’t need him and they signed him for too much money and term (which is sort of another way of saying something is sort of wrong i.e. maybe he’s been hurt entire year, and most of last 3 or more years). either way, NYJ i’m sure will actually use whatever they have to win football games and clearly they need help with that.

      • goodfold2 says:
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        @Jay: well, wrong turn for me there then. i would think the targets would go up from short range anyway.

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @goodfold2: I mean, it’s not that bad, but I can’t say this is a good thing.

  26. Monty says:
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    So the breaking news that Harvin just was traded to the Jets. Any Hawks WR worth a pick up?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Monty: Probably Baldwin, but I’m not sold on that passing attack.

      • Monty says:
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        @Jay: what about that Richardson kid, any thoughts on him?

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @Monty: Seattle seems to think high of him. Tough to say.

  27. Zandy says:
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    Please explain impact and rationale of Percy harvin to the jets
    Assume downgrade to Russ decker Kerley
    Upgrade to Marshaw and Doug Baldwin?

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