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Hey Razzball Nation, I am Max, your new fantasy scapegoat guru. I will soon be writing over on the basketball section as well, lending JB a hand on a weekly basis. Now you guys don’t know me. Those annoying voices in your head might be asking, “Who the F is this guy? Is he trustworthy?”. Razzballers you are right, my apologies, let me introduce myself. I play way too much fantasy, I mean if you’re on this site you do too. Been playing since 2005 when I was a mere toddler (high school basketball star). I’ve got a degree in science, and finishing up another degree in finance all the way up in big ol’ Canada where Celine Dion is eating poutine and chasing it down with maple syrup.

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Enough about me, let’s get to the good stuff. Who does I feel is underrated this year? Since you are able to read you already know it’s Justin Forsett! Surprise. Looking at Forsett’s ADP, Yahoo, ESPN, CBS and some other terribly ranked websites show us that he is drafted in the mid 20’s, high of 22, low of 34. In my personal rankings, that are kept on a USB locked away safely in my basement, he is ranked 9th in both standard and PPR leagues. What gets you so hot and heavy about Forsett this year Max?

A new offensive scheme is in with Marc Trestman. As a Canadian, I know Marc very well. He was the head coach of the Montreal Alouettes CFL team. He loves himself some RB Targets. Matt Forte had 94 targets in 2013, and 130 targets in 2014. Getting those extra yards from receptions, and potential touchdowns is HUGE. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had over 75 receptions and 250 carries. In a PPR league, I believe he is a no doubt top 10 pick. Moreover, he has a career 5.1 YPC in almost 600 carries so I feel confident the sample size is large enough. It isn’t a huge number, but gives you a good sense of his ability. His workload throughout the season was very consistent and I would expect 20+ touches a game for him.

I also want to ease you on the age factor here. He is 29 turning 30 this Season. The number 30 for running backs is equivalent to men hearing “Prostate Exam”. I am here to calm your nerves. The great thing about his 600 carries, is that well, he’s only had 600 carries of work and his legs are fresh. His workload has never been large before so there is much less wear and tear on his body compared to someone like Frank Gore, who has had over 200 carries every year except his rookie season. If you like handcuffing your start RB’s, Javorious “Buck” Allen is the guy who’ll be behind Forsett. I will most definitely spend a late round flier on this guy.

Lastly, the draft factor. There are so many good wide receivers this year and, according the USB Key of Influence, I’ve got only 10 running backs that I’d want to own now with injuries. I’m going RB-RB in the first 2 rounds of all my drafts. I’m able to grab 2 RB1’s and fill my WR corp out nicely still. You dont want to be stuck with anxiety and stress going into the season because Carlos Hyde and Andre Ellington are your backs. The Ravens have one of the easiest schedules this coming season, according to footballoutsiders.com, which makes me like Forsett even more. Don’t let the ADP fool you. Barring injuries Forsett will be a force this season. Damn that was corny.

 

 

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  1. impending doom says:
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    Congrats on a solid post. I like the way you think. I don’t really think ‘quite on my own yet’ cause i’m relatively new to fantasy football. Still can glean wisdom from the wise. I have no choice because I’ve found myself in a 20…yes ‘Twenty’ team league h2h 1RB 2WR 1Flex 1QB 1TE 1D 1K 6B. Team managers are VERY seasoned. Would love soo much to make playoffs. Money’s good too. So the big question I have is how would ‘you’ approach the first 4 or so picks please. Jay said RB RB for the first two. ‘If’ you agree with Jay, which RBs pop in your head lets say (if you had 2nd draft pick..or 10th…or 19th). Now I know that Forsett is obviously one. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks. (By the way I’m a Canadian-Manitoban!)

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @impending doom: I just want to add, if you do see a WR drop, I’m totally fine going with RB/WR.

    • Max

      Max says:
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      @impending doom:
      Thank you for the kind words. Good to have a fellow Bieber hater on here with me.

      Straight to the point:

      The 10 RB’s I mentioned in my post are what I would want to have coming out of the first 2 rounds. In a 20 team league however, that seems very tough. I could really only see it happening if you had pick 18-20 where you could snag 2 of them, say Forsett and Lamar Millar back to back. Sounds corny, but I would take the best available player in this case. Take a RB1 with your first pick, then take the best available player. The settings of your league matter as well. So if its PPR or standard, or 4 vs 6 Passing TD’s.

      In your example, 2nd, 10th and 19th picks, In the best case scenario for the first 4 rounds I could see:

      2nd RB,WR,WR, Best available player regardless of position
      10th RB, WR,WR, FLEX/QB
      19th – RB, RB, WR, WR

  2. Clyde Prompto says:
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    Nice! I hadn’t thought about the Trestman factor. Mr. Forsett will be getting a bump in my rankings. I’m sure he’s proud.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Clyde Prompto: Tresty certainly has a better offensive o-line to use, that’s for sure.

      • Max

        Max says:
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        @Jay: Hooray!

  3. Mel

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    Great post!! I have been thinking a lot about Forsett.

    I have the 8 pick in a 12 team. I plan to go Jeremy Hill in round 1. Should I go Forsett before the likes of Julio Jones, Jordy, AJ Green, Calvin? Having that top 10 RB and WR is very enticing to me, but I doubt I will get Forsett in the 3rd.

    Thoughts?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @littlecf24: I’d actually go with the receivers, but that’s just me.

    • Max

      Max says:
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      @littlecf24: PPR vs Standard scoring matters.

      I would go RB RB in the first 2 rounds. I spent 1.5 hours a week ago doing 2 drafts from each position 1-12 and going RB RB in the first 2 rounds made my team infinitely better. If you want to practice go to draftwizard.com.

      I would take Forsett in the 2nd round over those receivers every time.

      RB is comparatively thin at the top of the crop this year compared to most years. WR is very deep.

  4. Andy says:
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    A lot of people cite the lack of track record for Forsett as a reason to pass on him. Why do you think he’s been a backup for so long and bounced around multiple teams? What do you think has changed in his game from when he came into the league to now in Baltimore?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Andy: I think Kubiak had a great system combined with good o-line play. I didn’t think the line would be special, but they certainly helped.

      • andy says:
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        @Jay: I had no idea Yanda was that much of a one man wrecking crew

    • Max

      Max says:
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      @Andy: Forsetts rookie year with Seattle he played well with 114 carries with 5.4 YPC. Then in 2010,2011 they signed Beast Mode and he was behind him. in 2012 he was behind Arian foster, 2013 he was injured, and then on a full carry load he broke out last year. Sometimes you just need that opportunity to show off your stuff.

      • andy says:
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        @Max: Seems like he’s been lucky (unlucky?) to play behind some stud RBs rather than any deficiency in talent. His trajectory of back up to solid starter when given opportunity kinda reminds me of Michael Turner a bit. Thanks for the reply, excited to see how Trestman utilizes Forsett :D

        • Max

          Max says:
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          @andy: I could see 70-80% of fortes receiving stats while staying roughly a 1150-1300yd rusher with 8-10 rushing TDs.

  5. Jacob says:
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    Forsett is not underrated. He is currently in the 2nd round…

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Jacob: I know Max will answer this, but I wanted to add that to a certain extent, he probably is underrated just because he’s not in the top tier, and it seems as Max thinks he can be.

    • Max

      Max says:
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      @Jay: @Jacob: I have Forsett in the First Round! 2nd round value where he is dropping is excellent.

      In drafts I would 100% also consider playing the rankings systems and your fellow managers against themselves by letting him slide and snagging him in the 2nd round with a pick 13-18. Its tremendous value. Always remember to play the system as well!!!

  6. PHENOM says:
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    In a 12 team ppr. Do I keep Hopkins and lose 7th round pick and draft forte and forsett in the first two rounds. Or do i keep latavius murray and lose my 10th round pick and draft forte and jordy nelson.

    Or draft forte and forsert and keep latavius Murray and lose 10th

    • Max

      Max says:
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      @PHENOM: To be clear:

      Option 1: Hopkins, Forte, Forsett, give up 7th round pick for keeping Hopkins
      Option 2: Murray, Forte, Nelson Give up 10th pick for Murray
      Option 3: Forte, Forsett, Murray give up 10th pick for Murray

      Assuming I’m correct, I’m taking option 1. The in PPR, youre getting the top 2 reception backs, which is HUGE plus RBs are scarce this season.

      All 3 give you good value though if you believe in Murray and the Raiders……

      • PHENOM says:
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        @Max:
        Yea especially since my league loves running backs if I get two top ones I’m set and Murray could have some big games and do nothing others that’s what scares me.

  7. PistolofPete says:
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    You up in McGill, Max? I just graduated from there with a bcom.

    • Max

      Max says:
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      @PistolofPete: McGill once, McGill twice, holy @#@#% Jesus Christ….

  8. RotoLance

    RotoLance says:
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    You had me at “as a Candian”.

    Seriously though, I actually think it’s better to avoid Forsett. There is a legitimate thing as “one year wonder” in the NFL, perhaps especially as a RB in a Kubiak offense. Steve Slaton and Dominack Davis come to mind. I think the bottom line is, how much weight do you give to last year and how much weight do you give to the rest of his career? He’s got a long history of being a bit player, at best. I won’t be surprised if he’s good again, I’d just rather avoid.

    • Max

      Max says:
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      @RotoLance: I would be worried if not for Marc Trestman. They don’t have much else in the backfield besides Forsett and Trestman uses his RBs a bunch, especially in the passing game. Being behind stud RBs his entire career he hasn’t been given that chance. Now that he has it, he’s taken and run with it.

      • RotoLance

        RotoLance says:
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        @Max: Alright, Max, I gotcha. Good work.

  9. ROTO OVERLORD says:
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    At the 11 in a PPR Go Jones/Dez then Forsett in Wrap around at 14? Starting to really buy in

    • Max

      Max says:
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      @ROTO OVERLORD: Personally I go RB RB, but if you see the value go for it! 14 is good value, especially in PPR for Forsett.

      If you think you can get Lamar Miller with your 3rd round pick (which you won’t in a league full of intelligent managers), then Dez 1st round and Forsett 2nd round is beautiful. If you’re drafting yahoo, you can play the ADPs and rankings try for miller in the 3rd for sure.

  10. Miney says:
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    So would you take McCoy,Murray,miller,gore over a jordy Nelson,Calvin,gronk at the 15th pick. I know you would take Forsett over them

    • Max

      Max says:
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      @Miney: Im not sure I fully understand your question.

      At pick 15, my order of the guys you mentioned are:
      Forsett
      Murray – assuming its demarco, if its Latavius i would put him around Gore
      Nelson
      Calvin
      McCoy
      Gronk
      Miller
      Gore

      • Miney says:
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        @Max: Would you take hilton,cobb,evans before gore

  11. Gio says:
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    Drafting 6th in a 14 team PPR… We start 2 RBs and 3 WRs, no flex. Would you still take Forsett in the first round over Julio or Dez?

  12. Gio says:
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    In addition, due to a trade I am drafting at pick 18 overall in round 2. If all goes chalk, best available RBs per “o-rank” are Gore, Hyde, Gordon and McCoy may still be left although I doubt it because there are a ton of Bills homers in this league.

  13. Max

    Max says:
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    at 6th, you can get one of Charles, Peterson, Bell, Lacy, Lynch, CJ Anderson and Forte. I would take those guys over Forsett. Forsett would be the next off the board for me. This is my tier 1 of 8 RBs this season.

    In the 2nd round, at 18, Theres a shot youd be able to grab forsett, albeit a small one. I would take Lamar Miller over Gore, Hyde and grodon but not mccoy. If you cant get a good RB at 18, going for a Top TIer WR is not a bad alternative. Gotta adapt to the draft!!!

  14. Don says:
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    Say you take two running backs in the rounds 1 and 2 and in round 3 you draft andre johnson are you drafting andre ellington in round 4 to play flex and be a back rb or drafting an amari cooper,golden tate to be wr 2.

    • Don says:
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      @Don: If I dont draft cooper there get stuck with a colston, garçon, john brown as wr 2

      • Max

        Max says:
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        @Don: I dislike cooper, garcon and neutral on Tate and Brown. I like Colston the most of those bunch. I’ve done many drafts this season so far and over 50 mock drafts and I have yet to be stuck with any of them as my WR2. I would avoid ellintgon.

  15. dox says:
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    Would you handcuff forte and forsett with Langford and Allen. What round would you take the back ups at ?

    • Max

      Max says:
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      @dox:Handcuffing is a personal preference. I would be hard pressed to grab Fortes backup because there are a few guys that will share touches if forte gets hurt. In Forsetts case, Allen is the clear #2 and I would be more inclined to grab him in the later rounds.

  16. First Lady of the Nation says:
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    Haven’t done a draft in a while but in PPR auction this weekend I plan on punting on every single non 2 dollar RB and buying the #1 waiver position.. Spending all my $ on luck or Rogers, Ty or Cobb, and Julio and Dez.. Every freaking year 6 million RB’s come out of nowhere to produce like #1’s…be it only a few weeks at a time. So easy to essentially stream RB in this day and age of RB by committee. I’m betting it’s the last year I can get away with it.

  17. Freddy b says:
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    Feeling really good that I got him 9th pick of 3rd rd tonight. 12 man ppr….oh and my first 2 picks were Antonio brown and Julio jones.

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