It’s Toraining TDs
October 18, 2010
Category: 2010 Fantasy Football, Chet Gresham, Fantasy Football Daily Notes
And week 7 nears as one of the worst games of the season gloriously nears an end. Whoever scheduled the Titans and Jaguars on Monday Night Football is going to need a Jerry Jones like vote of confidence and then quietly let go. And if you lost or won on that last long TD run by Chris Johnson, congrats!|my condolences. Here are some odds and ends you might want to know about, or maybe not, I really can’t tell –
In the right situation Ryan Torain is going to have games like Sunday night’s, but the Colts miniature defense isn’t the best to judge him against. He fits Shanny’s zone blocking scheme, but anyone who runs straight forward fits. I wouldn’t sell him for a bag of Peanut Tillmans, but I do worry about his injury history and his extreme slowness, if you can sell high I would give it a shot.
Danario Alexander: I had him on my Waivered Wire post, but I don’t think I gave him enough of an endorsement. The Rams just signed him to a four year deal, and this is a guy right off the practice squad! He led the nation in receiving yards last season, but went undrafted due to knee issues. Another little tidbit from Adam Caplan is that he had a faster short shuttle time than Jahvid Best. I wonder if that’s anything like the short bus? Anyway you look at it, Alexander has WR1 ability with a young QB that is already stepping up and showing he’s for real. He’s got a real risk of injury, but he’s worth the risk.
Willis McGahee: Harbaugh said he was surprised that McGahee didn’t get in the game and that it was a flow of the game thing. Um, Ray Rice touched the ball 36 times which is the most for his career. I’m guessing they could have slipped McGahee in there, especially since they were mainly slamming Rice between the tackles to not much avail. Harbaugh says that McGahee isn’t on the trade block, but I find that very hard to believe. If he’s on the wire or can be had for a song, grab him just in case he is traded and goes somewhere he can play.
Matt Moore: Jimmy Clausen is out and Moore is in. This has to help the Panther’s offensive players even though Moore looked horrid early on. At least Moore has done it in the past, Clausen just isn’t ready.
Antonio Gates: He rolled his ankle twice, which is two times more than his owners would prefer, but what looked like a possible bench stay is now looking like he could be back on the field this weekend. Keep an eye on this, but don’t sell the farm for a backup.
Dwayne Bowe: I guess the Houston pass defense can make anybody not suck. I hear Jacksonville can do that as well and the Chiefs face them next week. I’m selling high, but I could see waiting until after they face the Jags.
Kevin Walter: He had a whopping zero targets on Sunday and as long as Jacoby Jones and Owen Daniels stay healthy his production will fluctuate enough that he’s not going to be a safe start.
Ben Roethlisberger: All of you who were waiting for Ben to come back and help your Steelers players, you got your wish. All of the Steelers big 5 got a touchdown. I don’t see any reason that this kind of production can’t continue. Of course not all of them will get TDs every week, but there will be plenty to go around.
Matt Schaub: He’s too good to keep down every week. Sometimes we hold onto studs too long when they are declining or just not producing, but they aren’t called studs because they only had one or two good games. As long as a player is youngish, has a history of excellence and is in a similar situation as he was in the past, the odds are good they will return to their fantasy greatness.
Calvin Johnson: The poster child for not sitting your studs, Megatron had a huge touchdown to make his game. He, like all receivers, will have down games, but no matter who he is against he has the ability to have a good game, even coming off an injury.
James Starks: He is off of the PUP list, but he’ll need to get up to speed with the offense before he can get on the field. If he can give the Packers a combination of what Kuhn and Jackson are able to do, I think he could make a second half impact.
Chris Cooley: More good tight end news, Cooley’s concussion was minor and he could even play this week. Don’t count on him, but don’t throw him out with the bath water. And stop taking baths with Chris Cooley.
Desean Jackson: in much less good news, DJax will be out next week, then have his bye, and then there is no guarantee that he’ll be ready in week 9. With the rules getting stricter on concussions he’ll need to be 100% and concussions of his severity can linger.
Malcolm Floyd: His hamstring injury seems to be bad and it already looks like he is out for next week and I don’t think we can count on him the week after.
October 18th, 2010 at 8:46 pm
PPR league: Mike Williams (TB), Vincent Jackson or Kenny Britt worth dropping for Danario Alexander? I have a whole lot of good receivers, so I can afford to let someone marinate at the end of my bench.
October 18th, 2010 at 9:03 pm
How would u rate Branch, Evans, S.Johnson, or D.Thomas for next week and beyond? All are FA right now.
(and I wish I traded MJD after that game he had 3 weeks ago.)
October 18th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
How would you rank these 3 TE’s for the rest of the year:
Celek
H. Miller
O. Daniels
I’m thinking that if Daniels is back to 100%, he could be a top 4 TE for the rest of the year.. but I’m really not sure..
Also which kicker do you like for the rest of the year: Akers or Goskowski or Longwell..
October 18th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
Dropping Jacoby Jones and MSW for Meachem and Mike Williams (SEA)
@genghis chone: Hmm, VJax would be the only one, but as long as he’s going to be marinating, VJax is probably better.
@elwood blues: Branch, then the others are meh.
@Gambler: Yeah, it’s hard to know where Daniels is, but I’m going to say OD, Heath, Celek
@Shippity: ok
October 18th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
How about Louis Murphy or Alexander?
October 19th, 2010 at 12:39 am
screw david akers. Kickers are the dumbest part of football. Yes I understand they are only ones who actually put their foot on the ball, thus the name “football”. But still, lets rename this sport or something. Maybe then it won’t be a necessary evil to use a kicker in fantasy sports. Akers gave me -3 points. That is negative 3 points!!! from a kicker. And guess what? I lost my game by, you guessed it, 3 points. Instead of beating the only undefeated team left in my league and taking over sole possession of 1st place, I am now in 4th place with 2 losses while that scumbag is sitting pretty at 6-0. I hate kickers and did I forget to mention that I hate David Akers in particular?
October 19th, 2010 at 1:00 am
I’m no expert and that’s why I frequent this site for advice, but I think streaming defenses and kickers gives you the best chance to win. If you didn’t plan that pre-draft and took the, say, Jets or Kaeding then I can see where it might be tough to drop them… but no defense or kicker really has much trade value, and streaming on any given week can still give you just as many points as you’d get from those positions had you drafted them before the last 2 rounds. I streamed the Titans D/ST this week and they put up the most points in my league. Also, the top kicker wasn’t owned. I guess what I’m saying is, in most cases, don’t feel by dropping your defense or kicker that you’re giving other teams an opportunity to grab them and you’ll regret it, because from week-to-week there’s a D or K available to grab that is just as capable of putting up similar points.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:04 am
@Hennessey: Sorry, had you NOT drafted them before the last 2 rounds. Either way, just drop and stream and you shouldn’t regret it very much, if at all.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:11 am
Doc, I own Torain and can afford to trade him, but ESPN has a little note about how he might not be completely healthy. This depresses his trade value, so should I wait to make an offer once that stupid little note says he’s fine?
October 19th, 2010 at 4:43 am
@Gambler: Doc’s opinion means much more than mine, but I second his ordering of OD, Heath, and Celek.
@Hennessey: You’re a strange cat, Hennessey. Your 1st comment isn’t really a question. It’s just you sounding off on your strategy of streaming kickers and defenses. I agree with your what you’re saying, but I’m not sure what you’re asking of the peanut gallery. Also, you appear to answer your 2nd question re: Torain in the question itself. Torain’s trade value is definitely diminished with that negative blurb cause his injury history is well documented.
October 19th, 2010 at 4:49 am
Heath Miller or Kellen Wilson?
Mike Williams (SEA) or Patrick Crayton?
If you see Miller and Winslow as the two best players, I could keep them both and drop Williams and Crayton.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:31 am
Trying to make some waiver add decisions, so please pick the best two for this week out of:
Mike Williams (Ari)
Deon Butler (Ari)
Breaston (@Sea)
Crayton (NE)
Buster Davis (NE)
Brandon Tate (@SD)
Manningham (@Dal)
Danario Alexander (@TB)
thanks as always!
October 19th, 2010 at 7:01 am
@RonWashington’sStache: I see your point about the Torain comment… but considering the whole lead-in of Doc’s post being about trading Torain while his value is high after his game against Indy, my question is not as easily answered as you make it out to be.
As far as my first post being a comment and not a question asking something of the “peanut gallery,” I wasn’t aware that wasn’t allowed on here. My bad. I figured with posts #3 & #7 talking about kickers — especially the one asking “which kicker do you like the rest of the year?” — that maybe I could give a couple thoughts regarding the strategy of streaming kickers rather than plugging one in as an every-week starter. I guess I’m just a strange cat…
October 19th, 2010 at 7:04 am
Alexander or Meachem? 0.5 PPR
October 19th, 2010 at 7:37 am
@Doc: is offering torain/Vick for Benson/MaClin asking to much?
October 19th, 2010 at 7:56 am
@all:
Is it worth dropping McNabb to pick up Kolb off waivers? I also have Vick on my bench.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:08 am
Need a fill in for Dallas Clark this week in ppr. Tony Moaeki vs Jacksonville or Ben Watson @ Saints?
October 19th, 2010 at 8:30 am
I’ve been holding on to my #1 waiver, waiting for an (even better than) Torain-like situation to emerge for me to patch up my RB2 (currently B-Jax and DMC on the bench). Hasn’t really happened though.
Should I give in and claim Woodhead or is it worth waiting and rolling with what I’ve got? Jackson has been serviceable these last 2 weeks due to some luck and PPR, but with him any week can be a return to 8 carries for 18 yds and no catches. Not confident in DMC getting a full workload any time soon either…
October 19th, 2010 at 8:36 am
Doc: I think I can trade Miles Austin and Hillis for Gore and Welker. Non-ppr. I have to do that, right? My remaining WRs are Nicks, Welker, Hines Ward and Garcon.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Doc : Who would you put in on waivers for…..Alexander or would you go after Branch instead?
I would need to lose one or both for the guys above : Bengals D or Devon Bess
October 19th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Hi all,
I need a Dallas Clark replacement for this week. Here are my options:
Moeaki (vs Jax)
Celek (@ Tenn)
Watson (@ NO)
Shockey (Clev)
Winslow (StL)
Miller (@MIA)
Anyone jump out at you or should I just pull a name out of a hat. I own Moeaki now, but would be willing to put in the necessary clicks to replace him if you thought it was worth the trouble.
Thanks.
October 19th, 2010 at 9:33 am
I actually just traded Matt Cassel for Torain. We start 2 QBs, and my starters are Rodgers and Matt Ryan.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:10 am
Also..is Vincent Jackson worth a speculative grab if you have to drop Beanie Wells or Felix Jones (both bench depth/trade bait)? If so, who? Very mild RB vs WR pts advantage in this league.
October 19th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Drop Felix Jones for Ivory?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:24 am
A leaguemate is in a bye week pickle. He needs a RB, 2 WRs and a flex.
I asked him what he would think about MJD for either Foster or Andre Johnson. I think he’ll reject those. How much more would you offer? MJD + Britt or TB Williams seem OK? Too much? Not enough?
@Art Vandelay: I’d lean Jones
@Max: I’d keep Jones/Beanie
@Dan: Good deal
@Matt Leinart: Moeaki
@Casadilla: I think you are ok with McNabb
@Mr2Bits: I’d get both
@Joel: Go for it
October 19th, 2010 at 10:34 am
flex starter this week in standard scoring league
lynch vs the cardinals
deangelo vs the niners
what you think?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:37 am
Rank these WR please:
Danario Alexander
Brandon Tate
Deion Branch
Mike Williams (SEA)
Patrick Crayton
Also, which TE? Owen Daniels or Aaron Hernandez?
October 19th, 2010 at 10:38 am
.5 ppr if that matters
October 19th, 2010 at 10:58 am
I put this Q on the new thread as well: the formal offer I got was Gore, Boldin and Brandon Jacobs for Austin, Best and Hillis. I still have Nicks, SJax, Bradshaw and Felix Jones. For some reason, I want to do it. is it too much, or should I do it? I like Gore better than Hillis and Best, and Miles completely dissapears every 2 weeks.
October 19th, 2010 at 11:20 am
Trade just went down in my league:
AJ & McFadden for Mike Wallace, Mike Thomas, Cadillac, and Blount
Ok, so normally I don’t veto trades. Everybody values players differently and all that. But SERIOUSLY? I’m not crazy, right?
October 19th, 2010 at 11:29 am
@Hennessey: Since no one knows anything about your league, how could anyone possibly gauge the interest level of Torain amongst your leaguemates?
@Doc: What’s up Doc? No answer to my question (#12)?
October 19th, 2010 at 11:38 am
@stumanji: that trade is BS. Must be vetoed. what do you think about my trade in #31? would you do it?
October 19th, 2010 at 12:11 pm
@RonWashington’sStache: They’re general questions, dude, just leave it alone.
@Nick: Might be, but ask anyway.
@Wilsonian: I’m going with Alexander’s upside. Risky, but that’s who I’m picking up this week.
@Anonymous: Alexander
@Hennessey: Well, I’d see what you can get for him. His knee was wrapped after the game, but we have no real injury report. Lots of players have their knees wrapped.
@RonWashington’sStache: Williams long tern, Crayton short term. And Miller.
@Hennessey: @RonWashington’sStache: Anyone can post whatever they want as long as it doesn’t offend me! Like saying Jeremy Shockey is a cool guy or Miller Lite tastes good.
@trey: That’s closer than it should be. I’m leaning Lynch.
@Mark: Danario Alexander, Deion Branch,
Mike Williams (SEA), Patrick Crayton (has good short term value), Brandon Tate and Aaron Hernandez
@stumanji: Yeah, that’s pretty crazy, but as long as McFadden isn’t starting it’s probably not vetoable. Somebody values a lot of scrubs to fill their starting slots. Maybe they are in bye week trouble.
October 19th, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Doc, not too be too granular, but, what can I expect to get in trade for Orton or Flacco at this point? Positionally and what “Tier” (1 or 2) type player? If you what to throw a name thats fine, its too specific, I know. Thanks bro!
October 19th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
@Doc: which WR would you rather have in a dynasty: Garcon, Collie or Wallace?
October 19th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Trade offer in standard league with flex:
I give McFadden, harvin, and royal
I get brandon jackson, heines ward, and louis murphey
Rothisberger is my qb
October 19th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Just traded Orton (Romo is my starter) & Torain for S-Jax. Like it?
October 19th, 2010 at 4:25 pm
@stumanji: Forgot to mention I acquired Orton after week 3 for Donald Brown at your suggestion. Thanks, Doc.
October 19th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
hey Doc, i’m in a 3 WR , 2 RB league with 6 points for QB td , non PPR
my team
QB-Flacco/Mcnabb
RB-Ray Rice/Ryan Mathews/Tolbert/Thomas Jones
WR-Calvin Johnson/Greg Jennings/Hines Ward/Santana Moss/Deion Branch/Sidney Rice
TE-Witten
K- Gostowski
D- Saints
My record is 3-3
I’m clearly stacked at WR – who would you look to trade and where would you upgrade and who would you target , ?
@Andrew: I wouldn’t
@stumanji: Yep!
@KMar: I’d try to make a trade for Beanie. Maybe Moss.
October 19th, 2010 at 8:27 pm
@Doc: Ha! How did Miller Lite ever even get popular? I mean it’s not as popular as Bud Light or anything, but for how many people that drink it you’d think it doesn’t taste like cat piss when it most certainly does.
@Hennessey: It is a sad comment on American society.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:04 pm
Which is the better stash – VJAX or Sidney Rice? What’s the chances that either will turn into a WR1 by week 12?
@ilikestuff: I’d lean VJax just because we don’t know when Rice will be back and his condition.
October 20th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Alexander or Santanna Moss this week?
@Jeff: Moss
October 20th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Doc, my info is as follows:
6 pts for rushing and receiving TD and 1 pts for every 10 yards.
6 for QB plus 1pt for each 25 yards
Standard Defense scoring; Bonus points for low score and deductions for higher score
Starting: 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, 1 TE, 1 K, and D/ST
QB: T. Romo, K. Orton
RB: F. Gore, A. Foster, R. Mendenhall, R. Torain, M. Tolbert, F. Jackson
WR: R. White, A. Boldin, M. Wallace, B. Tate
TE: D. Keller, T. Moeaki
D/ST: Steelers
Question: Would you make the following trade: I give up Gore and Keller for Gates and J. Maclin?
Thanks!
October 21st, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Doc, if I make the trade above, I have also been offered Lesean McCoy straight up for Orton. I like Romo going forward with his softer strength of schedule. McCoy can also help replace the departure of Gore. Your thoughts?
@Lance: I’d take the McCoy trade quickly. Gore is worth more than Gates and Maclin, but I can see how it fits your team. I would rather keep Mendy/Gore and trade Foster.
October 21st, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Doc, my concern with Gore is the ineptness of the SF passing game. Do you see where I am concerned here, and why Foster?
@Lance: Gore is their offense. You can see Foster disappear when they get behind like in NY. And Kubiak plays the hot hand like Ward sometimes. Gore is always the focus.
October 21st, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Doc, Ive got an offer to trade MJD for Andre Johnson, what do you think?
@Jeff: I’d take AJ there