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Well, on a day where Jim Nantz called a pregame 9/11 memorial a 9/11 celebration, there really isn’t anywhere to go other than down… Or maybe I’m just talking in the context of the Chargers. And yes, I think I’ve written this before, but as one of the few Chargers fans in the industry (there are dozes of us, dozens!), I actually try really hard not to wax poetic about this team, an anti-bias if you will. (Except for Philip Rivers, he’s a flower.) Though, it could also be because injuries and disappointment have been a yearly routine for the Chargers, so plugging in a fork is probably more preferable than writing about them. Regardless, I only try to focus on them when it is absolutely necessary, because, believe me, I’d rather not write about how they lost yesterday despite having a 24-point lead at the half, nor would I want to mention that the Chiefs had the biggest comeback in franchise history, especially since both of those things would probably put someone like myself on suicide watch… But I do probably need to discuss Keenan Allen‘s non-contact knee injury that occurred before the half, which required a cart and hospital visit. It has now been confirmed to be an ACL tear, and based on my extensive health knowledge and degree in orthopedics (haha, my mother wishes!), I can come to the determination that this is bad. Like, season-ending bad. Also, knees continue to be a weak point in human anatomy. Also possibly groins. And this will not only cause ripple effects in football, but fantasy football as well. I think it’s fair to assume that Allen will be out the rest of the year, and here’s who will be affected positively by it: Travis Benjamin, Tyrell Williams, and Dontrelle Inman. To a lesser extent? Antonio Gates and Danny Woodhead. Here’s who will be affected negatively by it: My liver.

We’ll go over it a bit more along with all the other news and notes from yesterdays games after the jump…

I think the natural inclination to think this is great news for Travis Benjamin is the correct one, but we should temper it just a bit. The Chargers offense will spread out a little more now, even if Benjamin is your de facto number one receiver on the depth chart, Rivers will still come to rely on both Gates and Woodhead as his primary playmakers. True, this dynamic existed before, but it’s no secret that Rivers priorities were always Allen->Gates->Woodhead. Both Dontrelle Inman and Tyrell Williams are probably going to be above average options on the waiver wire if you want to make a move later this week for some depth, but I can’t really state with confidence that they are starters in 10-team and 12-team league formats… yet. If you have a gun to my head (jokes on you, I already have one pointed there), I’ve always had a soft spot for Inman, but Tyrell Williams looked fantastic on his two receptions (for 71 yards) and was targeted five times yesterday, best on the team if you weren’t named Benjamin, Woodhead, or Allen. If you were an Allen owner and are desperate, I’d go ahead and grab Williams… and then freebase something. Anything.

Ameer Abdullah (12 CAR, 63 YDS, 5.3 AVG and 5 REC, 57 YDS, 11.4 AVG, 1 TD) and Theo Riddick (7 CAR, 45 YDS, 6.4 AVG, 1 TD and 5 REC, 63 YDS, 12.6 AVG, 1 TD). Wow, after watching the Bears yesterday, I almost didn’t recognize what a running game was until this game came along. In most leagues, both these backs are ownable, and while it was questionable for Riddick to be owned in 10-team leagues, he could be a highly-sought waiver add this week. I’ve always liked him, especially in PPR formats, and once described him as a poor man’s Reggie Bush. Pretty sure he’s a rich man’s Reggie Bush now… or is Reggie Bush a poor man’s Riddick?

Keenan Allen6 REC, 63 YDS, 10.5 AVG. As mentioned above, the latest reporting has stated: “The Chargers believe Allen suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament at Arrowhead Stadium, a source said Sunday. While expected to miss the remainder of the 2016 season, he is scheduled for an MRI on Monday back in San Diego to gain further clarity on the full extent of damage to his right knee.” No, I don’t want to start main-lining booze right now. Why do you ask?

Gary Barnidge – 0 REC, 3 TGTS. This may be the Brownsiest Brown to ever Brown.

Dez Bryant1 REC, 8 YDS. I miss Calvin Johnson, and Dez Bryant is not making up for his absence.

Reggie Bush3 CAR, -4 YDS, -1.3 AVG. Honestly, why do people still employ Reggie Bush? I mean, I know it’s Buffalo, so you gotta realize… Actually, never mind. “It’s Buffalo” pretty much covers it…

Tevin Coleman8 CAR, 22 YDS, 2.8 AVG and 5 REC, 95 YDS, 19.0 AVG. I had a great afternoon watching all those great running backs that were still on the board when I decided to select Devonta Freeman (11 CAR, 20 YDS, 1.8 AVG and 4 REC, 20 YDS, 5.0 AVG) and Adrian Peterson (19 CAR, 31 YDS, 1.6 AVG)!

Brandin Cooks6 REC, 143 YDS, 23.8 AVG, 2 TD. THIS GUY BRANDIN COOKS, I CALL HIM EMERIL LAGASSE BECAUSE HE’S SERVING UP QUALITY CAJUN TOUCHDOWNS. Get it? Because Emeril is from New Orleans… okay look, it’s my first Grudenism of the year, and I’m just warming up for tonight. So everyone calm down. CALM DOWN.

Andy Dalton23/30, 366 YDS, 12.2 AVG, 1 TD, 1 INT, 114.0 RTG and 3 CAR, 7 YDS. Hmm, about two interceptions away from being in full playoff mode… I’ll take it I guess?

Larry Donnell1 REC, 15 YDS, 1 TD. You know your team is effed if Donnell is catching touchdowns against you. The guy can’t catch a goose feather pillow…

Ezekiel Elliott20 CAR, 51 YDS, 2.5 AVG, 1 TD and 1 REC, 1 YDS. Question: How long until we get the first “Ezekiel Elliott is Better than Emmitt Smith” storylines out of the media? I’ll put the over/under at Week 10.

Larry Fitzgerald8 REC, 81 YDS, 10.1 AVG, 2 TD. The Carson Palmer (24/37, 271 YDS, 7.3 AVG, 2 TD, 104.7 RTG and 2 CAR, 1 YDS) to Fitz action is great for the mind, body, and soul. Too bad one or both of them will be on IR before the season is done…

Joe Flacco23/34, 258 YDS, 7.6 AVG, 1 TD and 4 CAR, -3 YDS. Quite the elite stat line… serious question, at what point do we start calling him Matt Schaub 2.0? I’ve been ready for a few years.

Arian Foster13 CAR, 38 YDS, 2.9 AVG and 3 REC, 62 YDS, 20.7 AVG. What’s the difference between Donald Trump and the Dolphins’ running back? One is an Aryan Fosterer, and the other is a running back. *Drops mic, leaves stage.*

Jimmy Garoppolo – 24/33, 264 YDS, 8.0 AVG, 1 TD, 106.1 RTG and 4 CAR, 12 YDS. More like Gimmy Jaroppalo, amirite folks? Pretty stellar game for him (God, I don’t want to live in a world where Josh McDaniels merits praise), but things were obviously clicking for that depleted offense, and for driving through Arizona that quickly in the first quarter (8 Plays, 74 Yards, 4:13), you’d have to think Sheriff Joe Arpaio asked to see Garoppolo’s papers.

A.J. Green12 REC, 180 YDS, 15.0, 1 TD. It was a matchup between whether the Bengals would realize it was the regular season or if the Jets would realize that they were the Jets. I think you know which one happened. And I have to add, Revis Isle seems much more consumer-friendly than I remember.

Melvin Gordon14 CAR, 57 YDS, 4.1 AVG, 2 TD. – Ayyyye, Gordon ran like he actually cares about having a good career. And his first career touchdowns were yesterday? Is that right? Jesus, this is his second year…

Frank Gore14 CAR, 59 YDS, 4.2 AVG and 4 REC, 19 YDS, 4.8 AVG. Frank Gore is the best 48-year-old running back in the league, hands down.

Jermaine Gresham – 4 REC, 41 YDS, 10.3 AVG. Gresham staying Jermaine to that game. That’s actually all I have for him. Call me, ladies.

Robert Griffin III12/26, 190 YDS, 7.3 AVG, 1 INT, 55.0 RTG and 5 CAR, 37 YDS. Suffered a left shoulder sprain, and was pretty much violently abused the entire game. At this point, he should just retire before the Browns’ offensive line does it for him. Then again, there are some that consider going to Cleveland is basically retirement anyways, so…

Jeremy Hill (9 CAR, 31 YDS, 3.4 AVG, 1 TD) and Giovani Bernard (5 CAR, 25 YDS, 5.0 AVG and 2 REC, 5 YDS, 2.5 AVG) – The Bengals running game! Catch the apathy!

Shaun Hill18/33, 236 YDS, 7.2 AVG, 77.3 RTG and 2 CAR, 8 YDS. Hmm, 200+ yards with zero interceptions. You think he’s worth a first rounder? Vikings might be interested… Oh wait.

Rashad Jennings18 CAR, 75 YDS, 4.2 AVG and 1 REC, 3 YDS. Little known fact: If the Giants don’t run up the middle on first down, the Earth will spin off its axis. It almost makes you wonder if Norv Turner is moonlighting with the Giants.

David Johnson16 CAR, 89 YDS, 5.6 AVG, 1 TD and 4 REC, 43 YDS. 10.8 AVG. Johnson has to be one of the greatest NFL players of all time with a common name. Lawrence Taylor maybe? I can’t think of another one.

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Eddie Lacy14 CAR, 61 YDS, 4.4 AVG and 1 REC, 17 YDS. Maybe Lacy lost too much weight? GET THAT MAN SOME CHINESE FOOD, STAT!

Eli Manning19/28, 207 YDS, 7.4 AVG, 3 TD, 1 INT, 110.3 RTG. The Cowboys defense showed up just in time to save the Giants from themselves yesterday, but Manning made sure not to take that win without a fight, as per usual. Lucky for the Giants though, Archie promised Eli Titan Fall 2 if he won the game. Also, Razzball survey: Eli’s helmet size… 1. Not big enough, 2. Just right, 3. That’s not a moon.

Ryan Mathews22 CAR, 77 YDS, 3.5 AVG, 1 TD. Had a very strong showing yesterday, good to see that he didn’t let that Al Jazeera story get in the way of his PED use.

Jordan Matthews7 REC, 114 YDS, 16.3 AVG, 1 TD. I can’t tell you how crucial it is that Matthews does not enter into midseason form. I’d actually like him to do good things like this throughout the year…

DeMarco Murray13 CAR, 42 YDS, 3.2 AVG and 5 REC, 35 YDS, 7.0 AVG, 2 TD. I’ll be honest, sometimes I just completely forget that the Titans exist.

Brock Osweiler22/35, 231 YDS, 6.6 AVG, 2 TD, 1 INT, 89.1 RTG and 4 CAR, 16 YDS. The Bears defense managed to grab an interception, which I’m pretty sure hasn’t happened in the past decade, but I’d classify them as: Still Bad. So we should probably wait before making any judgements on Brock Lobster (yes, we should probably start hashtagging that). Also, did you know Osweiler used to play basketball? DRINK.

Philip Rivers25/36, 243 YDS, 6.8 AVG, 1 TD, 97.3 RTG and 2 CAR, 9 YDS. Rivers’ game in a nutshell? :) :| :(

Sterling Shepard3 REC, 43 YDS, 14.3 AVG, 1 TD. Not quite sure if Dallas has a defense… or the Giants offense is still just inept… eh, why not both?

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Kenny Stills – 1 REC, 16 YDS. I’m not sure how to react to that. Bobby McCain does though.

Steve Smith Sr.5 REC, 19 YDS, 3.8 AVG. Steve Smith reminds me of one of those women you have to hold back when they’re angry because if you don’t, they’ll attack someone with their shoe. I don’t know, maybe you just had to be there.

Willie Snead – 9 REC, 172 YDS, 19.1 AVG, 1 TD. Say, how’d my fantasy team do yester… *Sees Snead on the bench* *Shuts down computer*

Tyrod Taylor15/22, 111 YDS, 5.0 AVG. 79.9 RTG and 5 CAR, 11 YDS. I’m sorry Bills fans.

Shane Vereen6 CAR, 38 YDS, 6.3 AVG and 3 REC, 23 YDS, 7.7 AVG. Do you think when Vereen breaks off a long run, the defense starts shouting “SHANE, COME BACK!”?

Spencer Ware11 CAR, 70 YDS, 6.4 AVG, 1 TD and 7 REC, 129 YDS 18.4 AVG. Ware had 199 all-purpose yards? Your 2016 San Diego Chargers defense everyone!

Carson Wentz22/37, 278 YDS, 7.5 AVG, 2 TD, 101.0 RTG and 2 CAR, 1 YDS. Did anybody have Wentz for the first touchdown yesterday? I mean, other than Jesus, obviously.

Russell Wilson27/43, 258 YDS, 6.0 AVG, 1 TD, 1 INT, 77.5 RTG and 4 CAR, 16 YDS. Time for some of that miracle bubble water, right? Wilson did get his ankle stepped on in the third quarter after getting sacked by Ndamukong Suh, so that might have played a part in some of his struggles. A precautionary x-ray was taken but don’t worry everyone, I’m sure God is just testing Russell. After the game, Wilson said: “It feels a little sore. I’ll be alright — just a little ice, a little prayer, a lot of treatment.” This guy…

 

 

Final Thought

I don't know why maaaan. I sorta had to I think.

I don’t know why maaaan. I sorta had to I think.

Can you believe that if the playoffs started right now, the Texans, Lions, Buccaneers, and Giants would be postseason teams? The more you know. (Maybe less in this case.)

  1. JakeTPE says:
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    Hi Jay! We got football! And ACLs! Ugh. Fantasy gods, what have we done to elicit such anger? In Week 1 no less? Can’t we have one nice week, please?

    So, where do you rank Rivers going forward with the Allen news? I’ve got him and Ryan in a 16-team league. Can I play matchups and hope to be around top 16 or so at QB, or do I need to make a trade? Allen was like the most important guy I didn’t own so this kinda blows.

    thanks!

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @JakeTPE: All the ACLs are dying!

      I have Rivers about the same to be honest, he’ll find different targets and rely on different personnel, but I don’t doubt that his projections won’t change much, if at all.

      I don’t think you need to make a trade here.

      • JakeTPE says:
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        @Jay: Thanks for the feedback, sir. Yeah, Week 1 so not going to panic. Just a bummer when you saw what Rivers and Allen were doing last season and the promise for this season extinguished so quick. Season enders in back-to-back seasons for him–it’s just ugh.

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @JakeTPE: Yeah, he was bawling yesterday on the cart, really felt for the guy. Really young and has had zero luck with these injuries.

  2. The imp says:
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    Sorry you lost Kennan from your real football world!

    What do you think about:
    1) how long would you give Gio before hitting the wire for a Riddick or a T Coleman (PPR as RB4)?
    2) did you see any TEs out there that are lowly owned and potential volume upgrades on Ebron? Ebron was great this week getting 5 rcpt on 5 targets and the TD, but I’ve never watched him live to get a sense of his upside in this crowded offense.

    • The imp says:
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      @The imp: by low owned TEs I am talking Tamme (8 targets), Rudolph (4 rcpt on 8 targets), etc. The draft ate up the consensus to Witten.

      • Kyle B says:
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        @<a href="#[email protected]The imp: I agree that riddick should have happened. I am not sold on bengals running game at all.

        If I were looking to upgrade TE ASJ would be decent boom or bust every week the way I see it. I would probably look to add ASJ over tamme or Rudolph. I Comish my league and an owner who lost gronk for the week traded ivory off their bench for whitten. Not sure if that could be pulled off now though lol.

        For me it would be whitten then ASJ, but ebron should an ok volume.

    • JakeTPE says:
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      @The imp: ASJ looks like he may have been an afterthought in a lot of drafts. He may not be a volume play like you’re looking for on yesterday’s evidence (1 target, 1 catch, 1 TD), but as for talent and size (and a good QB/situation), you can’t do much better. The only worry is his head may not be on straight. If I were looking for TE help, I’d consider ASJ well before Tamme (yuck) and Rudolph (ick).

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @The imp: That’s life! A sucky life though.

      1) I’ll be honest, Riddick in a PPR, especially as a RB4 should have already happened long before the season started. If there’s someone on your bench who doesn’t have a ceiling, you should make that happen. But I expect a bit more from Gio, so I’m not ready to pull the plug there.

      2) ASJ was mentioned, I’m okay with that. Zach Miller maybe, though I might look at Clay instead. Jason Witten is underrated right now perhaps.

      • The imp says:
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        @Jay: in front of Gio on a shallow bench is DJax/Crabtree/woodhead. So depending on DJax, Gio looks like the weakest link. Many of our owners only carry 3 RBs and are holding lottery ticket types instead of Riddick (for a couple days at least…)
        I’ll take a look at ASJ. I hate streaming TEs but that may be the price I pay for useful WR/RB depth.

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @The imp: Yeah, honestly though, streaming that position isn’t crazy at all. We also come out with a streamer post every Thursday I believe, so be on the look out for that.

  3. Kyle B says:
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    Hey Jay,

    I was all in on your chargers this year. Drafted Allen number 1 and got rivers right in the middle of the draft. Missed out on woodhead by a pick! By one pick! I was also bucking the trend this week, I had a gut feeling they were going to go into KC and prove everyone wrong. Well, we all saw how that went down.

    Anywho…I feel like my team is all over the place now. Went with a prett heavy zero rb in my draft.

    My main lineup to start was (ppr 1 point 6 point TD 12 team)

    QB Rivers
    RB DeAngelo Williams
    WR Keenan Allen
    WR Mike Evans
    TE Jordan Reed
    Flex TY Hilton
    Flex DeSean Jackson
    K haushka
    Def I just stream

    Bench is Jones Jr, Kenny Stills, Tyler Boyd, Abdulla, Ware, Langford.

    I really hope my WR depth can carry me but I feel like RB is going to be musical chairs. Thoughts on the ware situation? Case of chargers defense or did I walk into an unguessable time share when Charles comes back?

    I have doubts creeping in now with the Allen injury that I can stay competitive. I know it’s early but it always sucks losing your first rounder. I hope your first week is going well!

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Kyle B: Hey Kyle, yeah, to be fair, I think Woodhead would have been a great add, especially in PPR. Rivers should be okay though.

      Totally going to be musical chairs there, but maybe Jackson and Boyd could help out. Ware is great for now. I think it becomes a timeshare if he has one more game like this, but don’t discount going against the Chargers defense, which isn’t that good against the run. I’d hope for Jackson and Cousins to take off so you can mix and match with your flex. Not a death sentence, but things are going to get hard for ya.

  4. a bag of sand says:
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    Is Gio Bernard worth rostering in 10 team ppr leagues?

    • William Hung says:
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      @Jay: Should I @a bag of sand: I’d say so – he should be solid most weeks. The Jets couldn’t stop AJ Green so Dalton kept feeding him

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @a bag of sand: Yes, for a few more weeks at least. But I wasn’t happy with their gameplan that game, for sure.

  5. Chucky says:
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    Not surprising to see TMobile’s numbers. The Rex Ryan ground and pound game is very reminiscent of 1960’s football circa Jimmy Brown and Leroy Kelly. Can anyone say Cookie Gilchrist? At some point maybe Rex moves his team into the new millennial. It’s a passing league moron, throw the gahdamn ball!

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Chucky: Yeah… I would agree, his offenses always leave people wanting more. At some point he’ll have to expand… but then again, it could also be a personnel issue. Fitzmagic is a wonderfully mediocre talent, but isn’t exactly known for his aerial attack. Granted… they sought him out, so…

  6. Tom Whitney says:
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    ARYAN FOSTERER! Obviously you have a problem with Trump. Could we please leave politics out of it. I get it, you think he’s a racist. Football only PLEASE!!!

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Tom Whitney: Well, I want to be more funny than political, sure, but if they intersect and that makes you uncomfortable, I’m okay with that. It’s just a joke…

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Tom Whitney: And just to add, not specifically towards you, but for those who stumble upon this comment, I’m not here to promote any political affiliations. Like at all. (Though, I might ramble here and there on the Podcast about who I support or what’s happening on the campaign trail, but it will always be rooted in humor and hyperbole…)

      The fact is: We are in the middle of a presidential race that permeates our culture so much right now, so yes, I’m going to draw on this for material sometimes, and make fun of both sides. Not to do so is denying a large cache of material. I mean, have you been watching this race? It’s ripe for parody, and if I see something that I can comment on that I consider to be funny, yes, I will draw on that without regret.

      My first goal is entertainment. My second goal is entertainment. If you are not entertained, sorry, I tried. Maybe we’re not for you. But if you take a step back, understand the dynamics of that joke, and enjoyed it, welcome home…

      • William Hung says:
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        @Jay: you need to TRUMP up the volume…

    • Flowers misses his old glasses... but he's ok tho says:
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      @Tom Whitney: how exactly would anybody who “thinks” think he isn’t exactly? what’s the schematic for that one.

  7. Alex Lee

    Alex Lee says:
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    “Johnson has to be one of the greatest NFL players of all time with a common name. Lawrence Taylor maybe? I can’t think of another one.” Jim Brown would like a word with you.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Alex Lee: Ah yes, Jim Brown is a great one. So we have three. I’d say Johnson is top-3 then!

  8. Jedimasters says:
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    Good morning Jay. With the news about Watkins possibly being shut down, what are your thoughts on who will be the #1 WR in Buffalo? I’m looking for bench depth. Thanks.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      Yeah, looks like soreness in his repaired foot, definite concern. I’d say Woods, but Salas could also be a target.

      • William Hung says:
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        @Jay: Coming out of USC, I thought Robert Woods was going to be a solid possession WR, nothing flashy but steady… this will definitely be his time to shine.

        Would you swap out Tyler Boyd for Robert Woods or play the waiting game?

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @William Hung: I think Boyd has enough of a ceiling here to sorta wait. Unless you need a WR now. Woods might be a good injury fill-in.

  9. omar says:
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    12 team 1 pt PPR League:

    Guy who lost Keenan Allen is also the Barnidge owner.

    Considering offering my Allen Robinson and Gronk (once he gets clean bill of health) for Antonio Brown. Don’t know if he’ll bite, but might be able to capitalize on a knee-jerk reaction from the goose-egg Barnidge put up yesterday. I’d be playing matchups at TE until Eifert comes back.

    Thougts?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @omar: Maybe… but he doesn’t really gain a receiver here if he’s losing one in the deal. I think it’s a fair deal, for sure, but tough to swallow for them probably.

  10. Det. John Kimble says:
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    Any TEs off the wire worth replacing Gary Barnidge? Dwayne Allen? Eric Ebron? Virgil Green? I have the number one waiver claim, but I wouldn’t think any of those guys would be a priority, would they?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Det. John Kimble: I don’t think Allen would, but I’d definitely prefer him over Allen. I think with the Watkins and Keenan injuries, and based on what your waiver priority is, it might be worth it.

  11. RotoLance

    RotoLance says:
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    Well that’s (the comeback, not the injury) why I didn’t pick San Diego Chargers as my surprise playoff team for the Razz picks. I very nearly did though, ultimately went with Oakland.

    It looks as if Watkins will NOT be shut down but will play through it. That’s what’s circulating now. I would think there is decent chance of re-injury, and maybe that’s more what the concern is. Assuming he does play through it, what does that do to his rankings, for instance approximately how many spots is he lowered each week? Do you know if his poor week 1 performance was due to his foot bothering him or other circumstances? These are handy things to know for Watkins owners.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @RotoLance: I picked them to win the Super Bowl.

      I’m sure they are taking it day by day here… but with the news we have now, I’d be worried about him in Week 2. I haven’t even thought about rankings yet, it’s something I only start on Tuesday and sort of go from there. I’d say, just as a guess, that he’s be near the bottom right now, like the 50’s for WR.

  12. RotoLance

    RotoLance says:
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    “I had a great afternoon watching all those great running backs that were still on the board when I decided to select Devonta Freeman (11 CAR, 20 YDS, 1.8 AVG and 4 REC, 20 YDS, 5.0 AVG) and Adrian Peterson (19 CAR, 31 YDS, 1.6 AVG)!” Haha this is funny. Really good post today Jay especially the intro.

    Vikings Twitter sounded the alarm on Peterson yesterday

    Krauser ‏@Krauserrific
    Adrian Peterson’s last 7 games:
    132 carries for 397 yards (3.0 YPC), 19 1st downs, 3 TDs

    His 5 longest runs:
    39, 21, 10, 10, 10

    #RBCliff

    Two carries of over 10 yards.. Danny Woodhead might have more in that span.

    (More mainstream sources of media have since jumped all over this storyline)

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @RotoLance: Well, to be fair, not many quarterbacks can make something happen when there are eight in the box. I’m not sure that Bradford can help out a lot, but he can stretch the field a bit better than Hill… at least I think. I mean, who really knows?

      • RotoLance

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        @Jay: Yeah I’ve watched the games and stacked fronts or bad run blocking have a lot to do with it. But his yards after contact have fallen off, again consulting Twitter
        ” ‏@PFF_Fantasy Aug 19
        Adrian Peterson averaged at least 3.0 yards after contact per carry every year ’07-’13.

        Last year? 2.3.”
        “@PaulKuharskyNFL 15h15 hours ago
        Vikings running back Adrian Peterson’s gained 9 yards after contact on 19 carries against the Titans. ”

        Having watched these I can also tell you that one thing that’s happening is he’s making the LEAST of some of these poorly blocked plays / stacked boxes instead of making the most of them. Trying to make something out of nothing instead of just charging forward is why the Yards After Contact is so low. He’s dealt with stacked boxes all of his career but I think now he may just be a step slower so running laterally after contact isn’t paying off, he seems to always get caught. Yesterday he ran back 5 yards after contact on one play, part of the reason he put up that dreadful 0.5 yards after contact. And small sample size of course but Matt Asiata easily outplayed Peterson yesterday and it was simply because he churned forward after contact.

        Think of what the loss of 0.7 yards after contact means.. that’s 210 rush yards lost on 300 carries. That’s a fantasy impact. Not a huge one but a definite impact.

        I’m not saying to panic but this is not a good trend. I’m hoping the Vikings will try to fix it.

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @RotoLance: Yeah, these are all really good points.

  13. Jeff P says:
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    I have only two fantasy teams this year, and the only guy I double dipped on was Keenan.
    WR1 on one of the teams, WR2 on that team being injured D. Thomas.

    I am bit confused at Benjamin’s line. 7 for 32? Isn’t he supposed to be the deep threat?
    like 4 for 90 kinda guy?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Jeff P: Certainly, but the Chargers offense didn’t do much the second half, so a lot of the volume that went to Woodhead and Allen (before he left) didn’t have a chance to spread. The two halves were completely different, so I wouldn’t read too much into it.

  14. Sam says:
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    Pretty rough day for me yesterday – Allen died, which is awful enough but even moreso after substituting for him in a trade I recently completed, had Snead Woodhead and Sanu on my bench (PPR), AND the player I completed that trade with scored more than the highest projected score all season (he’s sitting at 233, 100 points ahead)

    Now in need of a WR, I’ve been dangling Langford and I got this offer: John Brown and Rashad Jennings. I have the spot to absorb Jennings and liked his workload yesterday, and I really don’t like Langford all that much. He’s a pretty sought-after piece in my league so I’m going to keep shopping, but what do you think about that deal and what caliber player should I target for Langford?

    Thanks, for helping me retain some of my sanity.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Sam: Died and exploded, for sure. I actually think that trade is pretty spot on, helps you in WR and gives you an okay option at RB, as I also liked seeing him receive that volume yesterday. I think it’s fair and helps you out a bit.

  15. Ralph Lifshitz

    Ralph Lifshitz says:
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    “I was wrong, the Patriots are a great organization” just say it Jason.

    Reality is a wonderful place to exist.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Ralph Lifshitz: Eh, I already took my shower today, maybe another time!

      • Ralph Lifshitz

        Ralph Lifshitz says:
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        @Jay: Still mad they did the lights out dance on the Bolt?

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @Ralph Lifshitz: Are you being serious? I can’t tell anymore…

          • Ralph Lifshitz

            Ralph Lifshitz says:
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            @Jay: No, but would it really matter?

            • Jay

              Jay says:
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              @Ralph Lifshitz: Maybe your smack needs to stay in this decade… could help to keep it fresh.

              • Ralph Lifshitz

                Ralph Lifshitz says:
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                @Jay:Hence the word STILL….

                I mean what am I going to do, talk about all those great Chargers teams of the last 6 years the Pats ran through?

                With that said, you’re still mad about the whole Bolt thing right?

                • Jay

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                  @Ralph Lifshitz: Not really… if I remember from when I was 22, I wasn’t mad then either, because players can do whatever they want when the game is over.

                  Since you keep egging without an obvious punchline, I’m going to assume that you want a serious answer: Based on the media at the time, the blame went to Marty and McCree, and that’s where my blame was. And I’ll be honest, I don’t think Chargers fans think that much about the Patriots at all, and didn’t really see them as the main reason why we lost that day… Kaeding was actually considered more of a factor than anything the Patriots did.

                  And in general, most of the historic hate goes to the division, especially the Raiders, and more recently, the Chiefs and Broncos. Maybe sometimes the Steelers since they’ve historically owned us since 1994.

                  Though you are welcome to let me know why it’s cool or boast-worthy to mock the other team on their own field for a good 15 minutes. I’m genuinely interested how you think that looks.

                  • Ralph Lifshitz

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                    @Jay: I think it was based around how much of an asshat Merriman was. That Chargers team talked a lot of junk, LT in particular, and never backed it up. Teams that gave those early Pat’s dynasty teams bulletin board material usually got mocked and acted super butt hurt after losing. Hence LT’s “no class” rant. I stopped respecting him after that.

                    I’m of the belief that everyone but Giants fans has an ax to grind with the Patriots, mostly due to the number of ass kickings dealt out at the hands of the Pat’s. So team’s fans do what you did, make it about what you guys didn’t do, and not about what we did. Win….

                    • Jay

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                      @Ralph Lifshitz: when did I do that? Also, please list examples of that Patriot team, or any Patriots team the last two decades exemplifing class. They’ve won, sure, but you seem real salty about it. Why?

                    • And Now the Jon Lovitz Dancers! says:
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                      @Ralph Lifshitz: this didn’t go as well as when you were talking about “rich-boy Tehol playing at being hood and quoting 50 cent lyrics”
                      “ge ge ge ge ge get in the car”

                    • Ralph Lifshitz

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                      @Ralph Lifshitz: I think it went better….Wait is Jay Goodfold?

  16. Scott says:
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    Eli Manning is bananas!

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Scott: I honestly have no clue why he would do that.

  17. ujoh says:
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    Jim Brown
    Tim Brown
    Walter Jones
    Bruce Matthews
    Bruce Smith

    Just a few guys in the Hall of Fame with common names.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @ujoh: Jim Brown was mentioned earlier… I’d say Walter isn’t as common… but I would agree on all of the rest, for sure!

  18. RotoLance

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    My wife started Theo Reddick in a 10 team with 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 FLEX. But hey she also started Jonas Gray for his memorable game*. And Larry Donnell for his.

    *Ok, I had pretty significant hand in this one.

    • Jay

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      @RotoLance: Jonas Gray is still in football? He’s still alive?

      • RotoLance

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        @Jay: To clarify I did mean for his _actual_ memorable game, not being facetious. The Colts game 2 years ago.

        • Jay

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          @RotoLance: Ah, the one before he was late to practice and then never heard from again, right?

  19. William Hung says:
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    @Jay – Thoughts on Tyrell Williams? I’m not going to use a waiver on him, but if he’s available, I’m thinking of swapping out Coleman or Boyd for him

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @William Hung: I think he has the potential to be a WR3 in 10-team and 12-team leagues, but it’s risky. I like Tyler Boyd’s ceiling, but these guys are all clumped together. If it’s purely a bench play, Williams may have the highest floor here, but the lower ceiling, if that makes sense.

  20. Chris says:
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    Hello Jay,

    Good afternoon.
    I already won my week matchup and my QB Big Ben has even played. Good start.

    Anyway, I only have 1 TE which is Ertz.
    Through Eagles website, I can read that perhaps Ertz has an injury.

    One team presented an offer:
    TE Delanie Walker for my WR Fuller.

    Currently my WRs are: TY Hilton, Cooks, Fitzgerald, Sanu, Fuller and Injured Devante Parker.

    Should I make the trade?

    Thanks!

    • Jay

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      @Chris: Good to hear! Looks like a displaced rib that he suffered in the first quarter. He played through it, so it seems to be nagging. I actually might hold here and see what the report is tomorrow before making a final decision. If the updated report seems less encouraging, maybe just a smaller waiver move is necessary.

  21. Darren says:
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    My Barnidge for his Fleener? Half PPR

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      I’m fine with that… I expect more from Fleener than Barnidge moving forward.

  22. DT says:
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    will fuller over tajae sharpe in a standard 10 team league? is that too obvious?

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      @DT: throw in Riddick in that ranking too? im guessing Riddick comes in higher than those two?

      • Jay

        Jay says:
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        @DT: In standard, that’s less obvious, but I might go Riddick there.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @DT: Yeah, probably going Fuller there.

  23. William Hung says:
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    What’s the #1 panic move you see coming out of Week 1?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @William Hung: Probably dropping or selling the Gio or Hill. I can’t see any other reactionary moves… at least ones that are rational. Panic does strange things though.

      • William Hung says:
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        @Jay: I think it was all game plan – the Bengals clearly did not want to challenge the Jets run d and AJ proved he could beat Revis so they fed him the ball all game. It’s disappointing though that Jeremy Hill proved to be a mover of chains and the Bengals didn’t give him more opportunities. Really bad sign for people who expected the Bengals to commit more to the run and drafted Jeremy Hill.

        • ryanoger says:
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          @William Hung:

          Being a Bengals fan this was very disappointing to watch, wish they fed Hill the ball more…

          • Jay

            Jay says:
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            @ryanoger: I agree, and I’m not a Bengals fan. We have all the sides covered!

        • Jay

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          @William Hung: Yeah, maybe, but I think you still need a run game, strange to see Lewis move away from that. Maybe Hue Jackson leaving had an effect here.

  24. justin says:
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    should i use my waiver on tyrell williams, will fuller, or theo riddick.
    players i own: ameer abdullah, jeremy hill, michael floyd, langford. not sure if any of those are droppable for the waiver add.

    • justin says:
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      @justin: and someone offered me ty hilton for my jeremy hill. take it? standard scoring 10 team league.

      • Jay

        Jay says:
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        @justin: That seems like a great deal for you, what are your WRs looking like?

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @justin: Is this PPR or standard? If it’s PPR, go Riddick, if not, tempted to go Fuller there.

      • justin says:
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        @Jay: its a standard league. who should i be dropping for fuller? and my WR are randall cobb, deandre hopkins, michael floyd, and crabtree.

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @justin: I’m not even sure you need them after looking at your roster. Either of them. I actually think you are okay here.

  25. ryanoger says:
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    10 team .5 ppr league

    Our league does a FAAB waiver (start with $100 bucks in our account)

    1. How much do you think I should waiver to claim Theo off the waiver?
    2. What are your thoughts on Fuller after yesterdays performance?
    3. You think Eli Rogers is worth a roster spot in a ten team or just wait till we see what he does tonight, I think he will be a stud!

    thanks man dig the write up today!

    • ryanoger says:
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      @ryanoger:

      keeper league I should mention…

      • Jay

        Jay says:
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        @ryanoger: Yeah, with the keeper element, I’d definitely wait and see what you have on Rogers, depending on the price.

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @ryanoger: 1. Tough one, we’ll have a specific FAAB post coming out tomorrow morning, so check there, but I’d say 25% because of the PPR element. 2) I liked it a lot. Looks to be a great value play for someone who got him later in the drafts where I saw him go. 3) I think he is, but yes, let’s see what happens tonight.

      Thanks!

  26. William Hung says:
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    Here’s to all the Matt Jones owners out there that he can get some good yardage tonight and put to bed all this “committee” nonsense.

    In the night game, here’s to Gabbert being able to get the ball to his one and only receiving option Torrey Smith and he puts up a similar line to Mike Wallace

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @William Hung: I think he will, it’s just not in Gruden’s nature to timeshare, I mean, if that was the case, Morris would have been happy to stay.

      • William Hung says:
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        @Jay: Matt Jones with 6 rushes for 12 yards with no targets. I thought he’d be involved with the pass game if the rushing yards weren’t there

        • Jay

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          @William Hung: Hmm, he’s not really a primary pass catcher on their team though, Chris Thompson takes care of that.

          • William Hung says:
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            @Jay: yeah, but i figure he wouldn’t exclusively be taking handoffs. I mean this is a guy who had 300 yards receiving last year.

            Also, he just got vultured by Thompson. I am feeling that fantasy value go down the toilet…

            • Jay

              Jay says:
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              @William Hung: To be fair, it’s just one game, and the were so far behind in the second half, it’s going to be nothing but aerial stuff.

  27. DT says:
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    just got a trade proposed asking for my Tyrod and Golden Tate for his Jameis and John Brown in a 12-team 1pt PPR league with 2 flex spots. Would love to hear your thoughts? I’ve got Drew Brees as my starting QB. Lost Keenan Allen to injury but other receivers are B. Cooks, Stefon Diggs, and Tajae Sharpe. He also offered to spice up the deal by trading my 8th round pick for his 6th round in next year’s draft. Appreciate it!

    • William Hung says:
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      @DT: when is Brees’ bye week and does Jameis have a good matchup that week? Jameis isn’t that big of an upgrade for you as a backup 2nd QB. Tate and Brown could be equal, though I’d prefer Tate as he’s 1A/1B to Marvin Jones Jr and has a track record of 90+ Recs per year. Brown is clearly 2nd or 3rd behind both Fitz and Floyd.

      • DT says:
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        @William Hung: just checked and Winston plays Carolina on Brees’ bye week haha. agree with your assessment as I tend to like Tate more too. i’m thinking I might pull the trigger just for the higher draft pick next year

    • Jay

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      @DT: It’s an interesting move, and I think it comes down to which guys you like more. In a vacuum, it seems really lateral. Though, with the round pick coming your way, I’d consider it with already having Brees.

      • William Hung says:
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        @Jay: Oh yeah, that 2 round upgrade might swing the deal in your favor.

      • DT says:
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        @Jay: thanks guys. I really do appreciate the help. this site is awesome

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @DT: Any time, that’s what we’re here for!

  28. Arty says:
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    Do you think it’s a good idea to unload Devante Freeman for Demarco/Latavius Murray/Matt Forte? Or just hold on. My bench RBs are gio and Woodhead in a non PPR.

    • Jay

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      On the surface it seems good, but who are you dropping to make room?

      • Arty says:
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        oh i meant for 1 of any of those 3 RBs, sorry. 1 for 1 so no need to drop.

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @Arty: Oh, then no, not yet. I’d hold there.

  29. Psh says:
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    In a keeper league, I have Freeman for $3 and Sammy Watkins for $5, I thought I had great values heading into the draft but now I just wish I had my $8 back…

    That said, what would you do with these two?

    I know “don’t over react” but I think devonta’s job is pretty much gone. Sure he’ll split time and maybe be 50:50 split ROS but I think there may be some who pay up for him thinking they’re buying low. Plus he’s $3 in a keeper where rb1 go for $60… Too bad he’s a rb4 this year

    I was thinking:
    $3 Freeman, $6 forsett, $10 Stefon digs for $48 dez Bryant, $17 jeremy Langford, $6 Charles sims.
    What do you think on that trade?

    Also shooting for the stars and thinking $3 Freeman, $10 Stefon digs for $1 David Johnson

    Watkins seems to already have a lost season with this foot thing but hard to sell an injured player, esp someone with a laundry list like him

    Thanks

    • Jay

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      @Psh: I mean, I know there’s risk with Freeman, but calling him a RB4 I think is an overreaction. Even if both of them take a step back, those are pretty legit values.

      The trade itself is okay, but why not wait a bit to see if Freeman regains his value? I would try the Johnson trade though, that would be a good effort.

      • Psh says:
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        @Jay: thanks. I just think waiting on someone to ‘regain their value’ is a losing proposition, right now I have the benefit of the doubt it was just a “one week thing”. I guess I hope it was, but not sure if you watched but Freeman looked average. They already split time and Coleman played more snaps, and looked legit. Also, I should’ve mentioned in this keeper league you can only keep Devanta for one more year anyway, then he has to go back to free agency.

        Just worried that right now I can still get round 1-3 value for him, next week it might be Freeman for Charles sims type value…

        Thanks for your thoughts.

        • Jay

          Jay says:
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          @Psh: Fair enough, but I usually wait at least until Week 3 or 4 to reassess.

        • And Now the Jon Lovitz Dancers! says:
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          @Psh: people will give you better than sims value for freeman no matter what he does in weeks 1 and 2 (unless martin got hurt in week 2)

  30. Shark says:
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    Don’t panic and dump Barnidge yet until you see what happens now that he is reunited with his “breakout partner” McCown. And I’ve read that Hue Jackson is supposed to be a “tight end friendly” (insert Razzball joke here) coach. Of course, RGIII cannot be coached to do anything other than what RGIII wants…but he’s gone now, so…My .02.

  31. Mike says:
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    I am bailing on Watkins, want no part in this. I used to be a flanker and a foot issue, nooooo way.

    Besides the obvious 6-10 guys, gimme a sneaky WR to get in exchange for Sammy that the other owner might think they are getting a deal. This is a PPR redraft.

    Thought about packing him with Henry to the Cooper owner……..

    • Jay

      Jay says:
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      @Mike: Yeah, I like the idea of Cooper there too. Worth a shot.

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