As my Kerryon Johnson fathead and I prepared for our first Zoomsgiving on Thursday morning, I could feel the Excitement growing. Yes, I’ve named my dong “Excitement.” So I fired up AOL dialup connection to join the Razz-family Zoom call. Nothing could have prepared me for what I’d see on the other side of the screen once my 17 minute dial up was complete. The things Rudy Gamble, Pigskinonator and their Will Fuller fathead were doing would make Louis C.K. blush. A couple hours later ,Will Fuller came through again with a monstrous game against the Lions, catching 6 passes for 171 yards and his 7th and 8th touchdowns. The great Pigskinonator foreshadowed all of this, of course, projecting Fuller as its #3 fantasy wide receiver for week 12 and projecting Deshaun Watson (17/25 for 318 yards, 8 carries for 24 yards and 4 touchdowns–he now has 24 touchdowns) as its #2 QB for the week. If you haven’t tasted the deliciousness of the Pig-bot yet, we’re still offering a free 3-day trial and then it’s only $5.99 for the final month of the season. Anyway, here’s what else I saw yesterday for fantasy football:

Duke Johnson – 9 carries for 37 yards, 3 catches for 43 yards and his 2nd touchdown. I questioned my own sanity as I thrust Johnson up to #18 in my week 12 rankings after he burnt me the past two weeks. But Pigskinonator scoffed at what I thought was an aggressive ranking, as the bot boosted Johnson all the way up to #11 in its week 12 rankings. It was an entertaining rollercoaster ride with Duke, but I’ll be happy to have the grithier Johnson, David Johnson, back from his concussion next week–hopefully. 

C.J. Prosise – 5 carries for 12 yards, 1 catch for 2 yards and his 1st touchdown. The Thanksgiving vultures were circling. I’m eating vulture instead of turkey next year!

Brandin Cooks – 5 catches for 85 yards. We praise the brilliant Pig-bot when it’s boldness pays off but I’ll be real with you, it isn’t always bacon and ribs. The robot projected Cooks as it’s #4 fantasy wide receiver this week, which he’ll fall well short of. That said, five catches and 85 yards isn’t going to ruin your Thanksgiving unlike Uncle Arlo.

Matthew Stafford – 28/42 yards for 295 yards, 1 touchdown and 1 interception–he now has 18 passing touchdowns on the year. The Staff Infection flared up again on Turkey Day. Getting Kenny Golladay (hip) back from holiday will help. 

Adrian Peterson – 15 carries for 55 yards and his 3rd and 4th touchdowns. A.T.D. All Thanksgiving Day. Patricia doesn’t care if Kerryon Johnson (11 carries for 46 yards, 4 catches for 52 yards) looks like the far superior runner. Not that we should be surprised by that at this point. This is why I’m still hesitant to jump on board the D’Andre Swift bandwagon whenever he returns from his concussion.

Marvin Jones Jr. – 6 catches for 48 yards. The Martian has crashed back down to earth the past two weeks after a string of three big games. On the plus side, Marv did see 12 targets agains the Texans but will end if Golladay is back next week. He also appeared to suffer a left leg injury on their last play of the game so keep an eye on the injury report this week. 

Mohamed Sanu Sr. – 4 catches for 32 yards and his 1st touchdown. The Prophet rose from the dead in the second half. 

T.J. Hockenson – 5 catches for 89 yards. Hock continues to solidify himself as a stalwart in the group of tight ends behind the two solo tiers of Kelce and Waller. That reminds me of when Jake Ciely of The Athletic joined me back in August to discuss why he loved Hockenson: 

Antonio Gibson – 20 carries for 115 yards, 5 catches for 21 yards and his 9th, 10th and 11th touchdown. Remember all those “experts” fading the Gibson hype back in the preseason because he only handled 33 carries in his college career? 

Terry McLaurin – 7 catches for 92 yards. Over the last 6 games he’s averaged 9 targets, 7 receptions and 92 receiving yards. Terrence of Scarabia is a locked in WR1–Rudy and Pigskinonator told us that back in July.

Logan Thomas – 4 catches for 20 yards, 1/1 passing for 28 yards and his 4th receiving touchdown. His 28 yard completion to McLaurin was a beauty and he played college QB which was news to me. I’m intrigued. Could he be a better option than Alex Smith (19/26 for 149 yards, 1 touchdown and 1 interception)? It would certainly be more fun to watch. At tight end Thomas’s targets are consistently in the 4 to 6 range which lumps him into the back end TE1 conversation. It’s a messy conversation, very difficult to follow.

Ezekiel Elliott – 10 carries for 32 yards, 1 catch for 7 yards. I said last week that the buy-low window, which looked a lot like a wall with rusty spikes coming out of it, was closed. Turns out it actually was a rusty-spiked-wall. To be fair to the Cowboys offense, they did lose both of their starting offensive tackles on the first drive which is a big blow. Speaking of big blow, check out Andy Dalton (25/35 for 215 yards, 3 carries for 17 yards, 1 touchdown and 1 interception)

Amari Cooper – 6 catches for 112 yards and his 3rd touchdown. At least one Cowboy decided to play football against the, uh, Football Team.

CeeDee Lamb – 5 catches for 21 yards. The Little Lamb dropped a touchdown which caused me to throw my Turducken at the TV screen. This caused my Kerryon fathead to storm out of the house, leaving me to celebrate Thanksgiving all by my lonesome. So thanks a lot, CeeDee!

Lamar Jackson – LJax tested positive for COVID-19 and will not play on Sunday (if there’s even a game at all), Happy Thanksgiving!

  1. toolshed says:
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    So as a pit defense owner in a league where most teams are carrying 2 dst’s, I am in a bind if that game gets postponed. Who would you use out of these dst’s: ne, cin, lv, sf, buf, car, den, ten, nyj. Nothing but scraps left. Ne is at home, Murray a little banged up. Jones gets sacked and is prone to turnovers. Atl looked awful last week. Sf is getting some guys back maybe Sherman. Den is at home and hill played atl last week so it wasn’t the stiffest test. I am looking at all angles so I listed every def available here. We don’t get points for yardage. Just points allowed, sacks, int, turnovers, etc. This is ugly. Thx

    • Donkey Teeth

      Donkey Teeth says:
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      I’d go with the Bills if the game is cancelled.. No problem.

  2. toolshed says:
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    BTW, I think I am going to join pigskinator for some help.

    • Donkey Teeth

      Donkey Teeth says:
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      Highly recommended, it’s great to use as another data point. No biases, just raw data…

      • everywhereblair

        everywhereblair says:
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        I use the Pigskinonator to decide what I should wear every day. And every day, it says I should wear sweat pants.

        I love you Pigskinonator!

        • Donkey Teeth

          Donkey Teeth says:
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          I don’t need the pig-bot to tell me that!

  3. Brian says:
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    16 team dynasty. PPR, 1 QB, 1 TE, 2 RB, 2 WR, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 K, 1 DEF. Right now locked into the playoffs so just trying to play around with fungible end of roster spots with an eye towards the future. For context, roster makeup is QB-deshaun, big ben, RB-conner, hunt, leveon, duke, hyde, brian hill, ballage, jordan wilkins, hasty (IR), WR-julio, tyreek, jakobi, golladay, gage, cephus, alshon, jalen guyton, TE-waller, alie-cox, asiasi (IR), Albert O (IR), DEF-Mia, LAC
    Right now guys i’d consider dropping are alshon, jalen guyton, quintez cephus, and jordan wilkins.
    Guys available on the wire, combo of players that may help this year or future…austin mack, prosise, trubisky, marcus johnson, hollister, auden tate, richie james, cam sims, steven sims, scotty miller, parham, zaccheaus, malcolm perry, marquez callaway

    Would you grab any of the guys available? If so, who would you drop?

    Thanks!

    • Aubrey Plaza's Pillow says:
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      r.james if those SF WR’s are still out. i’d drop alshon or guyton or cephus (amazing how often RB depth issues come up in leagues like this)

    • Donkey Teeth

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      Pretty crapshooty group there, wouldn’t hold on to any of them too tight but Guyton for trubisky and Wilkins for miller are the swaps I’d make…

      No problem!

  4. Cram It says:
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    Logan QBed for my Hokies in college. He was drafted as a QB and rostered as a QB for a few different teams before switching to TE. I cant believe he’s 29 already. The WFT have a brutal schedule ROS and I’m probably dropping him next week for Schultz or Tonyan for the playoffs who have much better matchups.

    • Donkey Teeth

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      Dang, I just watched some highlights…looks like a totally different guy!

  5. Russowl says:
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    Is Brian Hill a must pick up already in the playoffs but 6th seed I have two defenses riding the Saints for now if I make it to week 15 they play the Chiefs so I have the Rams also going to against Jets week 15

    • Mobin Can't Hack It says:
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      i would think so, gurley might be out longer than week 12, he’s had this knee thing for a few years (it’s hurt his lateral cutting even at his age, which without this he wouldn’t be that old yet; this is why LAR dumped his what used to be large contract). i’m in deep leagues and i already have b.hill for this exact situation in my 2 gurley spots and 2 other spots i have b.hill too (he’ll sub likely for gio B in one spot this week, i doubt gio gets over his concussion sustained at practice wed by sun)

    • Donkey Teeth

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      Yes, pick him up

  6. Drekkan85 says:
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    I’m in a 12-team keeper league (keep 2, draft position capped at minimum round 8 – escalating each year). My league also doesn’t allow IR spots. As a Chubb/Mixon/Golladay owner for my first three effective picks this year I’m still managing to sneak my way into playoff position.

    However I’m now left in a quandary. I managed to grab Gus Edwards on the top of the waiver pile this past week. I also thought to put in a late claim for JK Dobbins on the theory that he’d be out for 1-2 weeks but has some long term keeper value.

    However now I’m in a bit of a pickle. I have no defences at the moment, and have to choose my battle on who to keep and who to cut loose. I have to drop one of the following:

    *Edwards
    *Giovani Bernard
    *Michael Pittman Jr.
    *Zack Moss
    *JK Dobbins

    I’m still carrying Mixon. I’m not overly enamored with Bernard and was thinking of making him the cut once we’re too close for someone else to pick him up (on the theory that Mixon is 1-2 weeks away and that Edwards/Dobbins/Chubb/Moss can see me through two weeks.

    • Donkey Teeth

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      Fine with dumping Pittman if you need the RBs.

    • Let Us Now Praise Famous Death Dwarves says:
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      i’d be careful assuming anything on mixon, this team let him sit on non IR for 5 weeks and 4 or 5 days BEFORE IR’ing him (with no practice days in that entire timeframe); something got worse on that foot (and/or CIN’s “medical staff” just is that dense and it took them 5 weeks and 4-5 days to realize what it was). dobbins absolutely do NOT drop if he can be kept, and i’d bet a bunch of money dobbins is back before mixon anyway. i’d drop gio b of these for b.hill, gio’s downside seems large now with burrow gone for ROS. b.hill is at least on a good offense. gio could for the rest of the time mixon is out put up like a 25 rush yards, 2 catches for 8 yard type of game. he also of course could get like 9 catches for 70 or so situation and be valuable, but the floor is scary.

      • Let Us Now Praise Famous Death Dwarves says:
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        yeah pittman possible esp if you aren’t starting him as RB depth is FAR harder to find than WR’s.

  7. Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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    shenault back. i already played m.hall this week so i can’t put in gab davis anywhere (unless i want to go over hurst at flex). now with far more WR depth than RB depth (albeit the best options in FA are: ozigbo (just dropped by me to take shenault out of IR slot), a.morris (seems 2nd in line), snell (this is probably the one to go for), mcnichols, prosise). i’m for this week probably not dropping any of these in case of further injuries, but going into next week drop r.james or gab davis?
    RB (2): henderson, mattison, chubb, d-mont
    WR (3): r.james, gab davis, m.hall (he’s the drop if/when golladay is back), mclaurin, perriman, shenault, renfrow
    TE (1): goedert, hurst
    1 flex

    • Joey Jo Jo Jr Shabadoo says:
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      and these in IR: golladay, j-jax, hasty, humphries

    • Donkey Teeth

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      Probably would lose Davis for Snell

  8. Trader says:
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    So all of a sudden I am RB rich and WR poor. Own Julio and Golladay. Fun times. My roster and WW below. Standard scoring.

    Tannehill, Carr (play 1)
    Cook, Monty, Gaskin, Taylor, Gallman, Hill (play 3)
    Julio, Galloday, Boyd, Fulgham (play 2)
    Waller
    Bears, Packers (play 1…streamed Pack v Bears)

    1. Which QB?
    2. Cook and which 2?
    3. Play Fulgham or drop him to stream one of Beasley (Chargers), Slayton (at Bengals) or Meyers (Cards).

    • Donkey Teeth

      Donkey Teeth says:
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      1. Carr
      2. Monty and Hill
      3. Slayton

      • Trader says:
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        👍

  9. Mordacious Levator says:
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    12 team standard. start 3 WR (no flex). i have MT, marv jones, boyd, m-will and fulgham. drop fulgham for any of: watkins, shenault, shepard, perriman mims or c-sam (dropped comes off waivers after week 12)?

    • Donkey Teeth

      Donkey Teeth says:
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      Samuel over Fulgham for me

      • Mordacious Levator says:
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        till those waivers go off any of that list above over fulgham for now, currently playing marv jones/m-will/MT this week (boyd i think i can bench here this week with b.allen in there, CIN is now a worse team than the NYJ or JAX, albeit their earlier season wins won’t let them get that 1.1 pick)

        • Mordacious Levator says:
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          good lord is the NFL a mess. thielen pops a positive mon, turns out it was a false one though as he’s popped negatives since tues, and somehow there’s now thinking that he won’t come off the corona list by sunday? he clearly beats the 5 day rule (if he continues negatives on today and tomorrow’s tests obv; the sunday test results don’t come out till after the sunday game times) yet a few weeks back the entire LV o-line gets put on list mid day wed but is allowed to come off of it by sunday (less than 5 days)? WTF is going on here. do you gotta pay off the right people or something and MIN isn’t going along with that but other teams are?

          • Donkey Teeth

            Donkey Teeth says:
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            It’s madness. I haven’t dug in on the covid clearance rules to be honest.

            • Mordacious Levator says:
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              supposedly from what the rotoworld guys have said during the year numerous times if you hit the corona list you need to be on it for 5 days (this is even if you pop no test, just were proved to be around somebody who has it, could be a teammate, could be in regular life), but this isn’t actually true, with the LV o-line being put on it mid day wed then let off of it by sunday early game (and under 5 days). then there is if you test positive you supposedly can’t come off for 10 days (and obv need numerous consecutive negatives at the end of that 10 days); BUT i forget who, but i remember somebody else (more than 1) having a false positive earlier in the week then being allowed to play that week (so under 10 days). the latter is thielen’s situation. i get the rule for when you test positive as clearly somebody who just has corona shouldn’t be around everybody else, but obv if you test positive on day 1, then negative on days 2-5 that shouldn’t count as a real positive. the main thing here is the NFL is either changing: 1. the rules themselves (probably not in season) or 2. how they are being implemented. this isn’t surprising, see how utterly all over the place how the NFL sticks to and rules on any kind of infraction over the last 20ish years. stuff such as:
              – NE having an entire room of practice tapes from other teams back in 2000-2001 that never got penalized (GODdell and kraft friends back then), did later get single instance punishments at least twice in the last 4ish years.
              – bountygate (but only NO got fined, that stuff was/possibly still is quite prevalent)
              – ballgate (it was legal for some reason for teams to inflate balls in the rules, but when GODdell was made to look like an idiot and brady/hoodie told him to suck it, NE got penalized)
              – NFL covers up domestic abuse crimes since they existed and GODdell had the r.rice tape suppressed for 6 months, but when somebody leaked it to public suddenly NFL comes down crazy hard on r.rice and others (but not AP or t.hill and some others)
              – weed punishments (by now completely legal in many states) continue to be worse than literal sociopathic type crimes or actual cheating drugs (PED’s): robberies, gun stuff, violence stuff etc.
              – owners going against anti-trust laws put in place by NFL themselves (see LAR, this case is coming soon, best part will be the attempted to be suppressed emails showing NFL owners specifically having a conspiracy going against their own relocation rules to move the rams to LA). in this heading would also go kaepernick (likely conspiracy to make sure nobody rosters him and if not a non legal method in collective bargaining rules to save money from possible money loss fallout from a protester protesting (which by now dozens of players do every week anyway, so no money was saved from this anyway))

        • Donkey Teeth

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          Nah I’d hold Fulgham over the rest. Agreed on benching Boyd this week

          • Mordacious Levator says:
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            oh i figured out what’s likely with thielen (and this explanation assumes the NFL actually IS following it’s own supposed rules)

            we know that:
            – thielen pops a positive on mon
            – a negative on tues
            – updates since then do NOT note how he tested from wed till today and indicate that he won’t be allowed to play sun
            – we also know that NFL teams aren’t required to say if somebody is on corona list from testing positive or just being near somebody who did

            so might it be possible that one of these happened, and this would make sense as to just why thielen can’t play tomorrow:
            1. his tues test was a false negative, popped at least one more positive from wed – today and actually has corona
            2. he since mon was around somebody who def has it and they won’t announce anything since he was already on the list from the false positive on mon (so his test results don’t matter since tues at all)

  10. Russowl says:
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    Covid strikes again.Add Wilkins and drop bell or Lindsay or hold? Would Wilkins be a start over Antonio Brown or Devante Parker?

    • Russowl says:
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      Snell also available but I doubt they play that game

      • Russowl says:
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        Snell is not available now not in that league anyways

    • Donkey Teeth

      Donkey Teeth says:
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      Nah I’d stick with what you have. GD Covid!

      • Russowl says:
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        Thanks donkey

        • Donkey Teeth

          Donkey Teeth says:
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          Anytime!

  11. Eli Man Penguin Boy says:
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    oh my god i hate thurs games. i even thought MIA was str up lying about tua being likely to play this week (played marv jones over parker). with fitz in there i’d most certainly have played parker over marv (with swift out that offense doesn’t run well, now we can be SURE about it, since they couldn’t even do much against HOU’s garbage D, and of course that showing lost the GB/coach their jobs, finally). at least next week we got none of those. gonna be hilarious if whoever DEN signs off the street to play QB (wouldn’t kaepernick be just perfectly awesomely funny) plays better than the 3 ON their roster!

    • Eli Man Penguin Boy says:
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      r.freeman might now be the DEN QB, bench all your patrick/jeudy (if he’s even healthy enough to play)/hamler/fants.

      • Donkey Teeth

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        Sounds like it’s actually Kendall Hinton who I’ll be starting at WR in several leagues haha

      • Eli Man Penguin Boy says:
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        or somebody named hinton (who’s stats were awful at QB when last played that position in college)

        • Eli Man Penguin Boy says:
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          oh yeah you beat me to that.

          • Eli Man Penguin Boy says:
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            one guy in a 14 teamer (start 1 QB) just nabbed both of freeman/hinton, probably gonna play both along with his QB. be hilarious if he loses on both those decisions (one of them won’t probably play much QB at all, rendering him completely useless, the other probably will and might be so bad as to get less points than whoever he used to have in that slot. really he’s almost certain to lose points in at least one of those slots (could of course gain a TON if even a marginal QB start comes out of a flex or WR or RB slot))

            • Donkey Teeth

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              Sounds like Freeman will be worthless

              • Eli Man Penguin Boy says:
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                interestingly enough, hinton in espn already IS a QB, so this is the opp of the t.hill NO situation in espn (where t.hill never once should’ve been a TE since he never played it (at least in the NFL in the last few years, while he DID line up at QB in every instance for what more than 2 years now at NO). not sure if hinton was ruled a QB till just now by DEN, but if he wasn’t espn shouldn’t right now have him as a QB alone (a WR/QB might be correct before now though)

                • Eli Man Penguin Boy says:
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                  wow this is crazy, in a dynasty 20 teamer where just weeks ago on HOU’s bye i barely had ONE RB starter and that was only since d.freeman got hurt late in week at practice and i was able to add gallman, (we only start 1 RB/1 flex but due to how it’s scored you really should start a RB at flex if you can) now with ALL of these options: duke johnson (added since i own DJ, already played him), gallman, b.hill, ekeler (had him whole time, off IR). that’s a good problem to have.

                  • Donkey Teeth

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                    Nice!

                • Donkey Teeth

                  Donkey Teeth says:
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                  I assume they just added him as QB today and he wasn’t in their player pool before

                  • Eli Man Penguin Boy says:
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                    that would make sense, i forgot how espn has to add more players later than other sites a lot of the time (happens in baseball too) in football. yahoo/espn are missing tons of players compared to fantrax (who will literally add a player if you can prove his existence at certain sites big in the sport for that). yahoo likely has tons more football guys than espn does. still doesn’t explain at all how t.hill (NO) was a TE up till a few weeks ago over there (he’s lined up at QB for NO for the last few years when he was used at all, even if he at one time could’ve been listed as a TE not QB it wouldn’t have been in the last 3 or more years).

  12. Hamtime says:
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    picked up hinton because of the insane denver QB situation. are you playing him at flex over jakobi? julio is on my bench bec of uncertainty

    • Donkey Teeth

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      Yeah I’d go hinton over meyers unless someone changes between now and gametime

  13. Trader says:
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    Fitz or Carr

    • Donkey Teeth

      Donkey Teeth says:
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      Carr

      • Trader says:
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        Me too. Recency bias strikes again. He was good vs Chiefs so we trust him. Carr just too up and down to be counted on. Did not matter as our league is letting Hill play TE which is dumb.
        Thanks!

  14. southside dom says:
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    Wow, what a mess.

    Need an RB2 and a flex in standard scoring league. Luckily Fuller gave me a nice Thursday output, so more so looking for high floor plays:

    RB2 options:
    Chase Edmonds
    Jordan Wilkins
    Frank Gore
    Carlos Hyde

    Flex:
    Jakobi Meyers
    Jalen Reagor
    Hinton
    Any of the above

    Likely starting Sterling Shepard at WR3 since I don’t want to risk a 0 from Juju if Steelers get cancelled

    Thanks and hope you had a happy thanksgiving

    • Donkey Teeth

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      Wilkins and hinton. Good luck!

  15. Russowl says:
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    Need to start 3 non PPR league 10 bonus points at 100 rushing or receiving yards

    Brian Hill
    Hines
    Austin ekeler
    Raheem mostert

    If mostert us one will need to drop either slaton, Akers, or Henderson

    • Donkey Teeth

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      I’d go hill, hines, ekeler

  16. goodfold2 says:
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    i don’t think this has ever happened in NFL history AND his other 2 weeks back of IR even with pretty good snaps he wasn’t doing much, i guess he finally is back up to speed
    – j.chinn vs MIN fumble 6 (fumble not caused by him)
    the NEXT play from scrimmage:
    – j.chinn caused d.cook fumble (d.cook some level of hurt on this play, mattisoners out there get ready to get happy), fumble 6

    i’m not sure but pretty sure never in NFL history has the SAME guy gone back to back fumble 6’s. shame i only have that guy in 2 dynasties starting (is ruled a S but plays LB almost only, is reason i got interested in that dude back in week 1 for IDP’s)

    • goodfold2 says:
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      this is interesting and good: perriman and mims STILL led NYJ in targets, even with darnold (who was terrible) back. both 8’s vs crowder’s 5. crowder becomes nearly useless as his floor drops out entirely (his whole bag was he was the new landry (who for first time all year had an old school landry game), PPR slot machine on targets and short catches)

  17. Let Us Now Praise Famous Death Dwarves says:
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    me above on gio b’s floor with finley or b.allen:
    “gio could for the rest of the time mixon is out put up like a 25 rush yards, 2 catches for 8 yard”

    32 and 2 for 13 ain’t far off.

    • Let Us Now Praise Famous Death Dwarves says:
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      of course i DID play b.hill over gore in the one spot i have gio b.

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