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As they say, change is inevitable.  Whether it’s the tuck rule, the crown of the helmet rule or the ‘how many days can I wear my drawers before they’re considered stanky’ rule, we as a species are always creating new ways to experience this little world of ours and fantasy football is no different.  I’m not gonna bore you with the stats but we have all noticed the QB position become the most dominant offensive spot in our lineup over the last few years and the depth at the position has become hard to ignore.  So with that in mind, I’m gonna two-tone this post by not only trying to give you draft strategy but also strongly suggesting your leagues become two QB leagues but not the standard version.  For all that talk of QBs being great offensively, there’s no reason anyone should ever feel they have to draft Christian Ponder and a 2QB setting would do that.  I strongly encourage if you do go the two QB route that you go with a QB and a QB flex (QB/RB/TE/WR) position to back it up.  It adds a unique wrinkle to your draft strategy and puts less weight on drafting those afterthought schlubs.  So now that I’ve derailed, I’m gonna rerail and get us back on course.  So lets discuss some two QB draft strategies for 2013 Fantasy Football…seriously, who’s working on this railroad?  We interrupt your route to fantasy football glory to give you another way to said glory via our Razzball Commenter Leagues.  I had a dream the other night where some weird guy whispered into my ear ‘if you build it, they will come’ and woke up and created this year’s RCLs.  Only you’re not coming…well, not coming to Commish or join leagues.  Do you not like us?  Do we smell funny?  Not cool…neverthewho, I guess I’ll still talk draft strategy with you but note I’m doing it under protest…

Two Rounds, Two QBs Style – You already know I don’t like this strategy but many of you look at the point totals and justify it.  Sure, this could snag you, say, Drew Brees and maybe Kaepernick but while you’re doing that, I’m nabbing myself two RB1s in the first two rounds.  I’m not gonna say this route isn’t viable.  You could end up with a good set of later round RBs like Chris Ivory and let’s say Reggie Bush but in reality, you’re giving into a temptation that doesn’t need to be entertained.  It’s not just that the quarterback position is deep that makes this strategy difficult to get behind, it’s that other positions like RB are harder to bulk up on in a draft.  This route just makes it harder to build a solid team in my opinion and I can’t recommend it.

One Star, One Scrub QB Style – This one isn’t too bad so long as you don’t overspend on that star.  The earliest I’m willing to take a QB in a two QB league is the third round and even then, I want to do it in the 4th so this one rarely works out for me but I do think it’s a happy medium for those who like the security of the first approach but realize I’m awesome and right and don’t want to follow it.  This one could almost be called the Romo and scrub play as he’s going as QB12 in most drafts/leagues right now and gets the most overlooked in that aspect.  And with me saying that, I’m also telling you where the star tier ends and where you shouldn’t be spending a high draft pick anymore.  You balance this one out by taking two swings at late round QBs who could outproduce their draft position by a good amount.  I don’t think I need to tell you that with guys like Philip Rivers ranked near QB20, you have options.  Which of course leads me to my favorite – albeit risky – draft strategy here.

Scrub-A-Dub-Dub, Two QBs in my late round club Style – We’ve already established that the QB position naturally outscores most other positions, right?  So why try and outscore others at it?  Outscore them at RB/TE and just pad yourself out with three or four QBs overall and play matchups.  Henne gets to face the Saints this week and Weeden gets the Patriots?  They’re in.  Ponder gets the Bears?  He’s riding the pine.  I know, none of that sounds sexy.  But you wanna know what does sound sexy?  Having AP and LeSean McCoy in your RB1/2 slots while you have Reggie Bush in your Flex and Graham at TE.  Yes, this draft style can net you that if the entire league zags while you zig.  That’s the beauty of it, really.  The earliest you’re probably spending a pick on a QB with this style is the 6th or 7th round and that really all depends on who you like/the value of your pick.  Last year in a QB/QB flex league I started off with Shady/MJD/AP/Colston/R. Bush before settling in with Big Ben in the 6th.  I won the championship even with all the injuries – thank you Knowshon Moreno! – so it can be a viable strategy but admittedly, it’s not the easiest approach.

As always, your draft strategy will hinge primarily on how the league approaches the draft.  If everyone is doing the third approach, don’t hesitate to jump ship and go with the first or second route.  No reason to fight for table scraps when there’s a feast awaiting you elsewhere.  It’s all about finding value when you’re drafting, not adhering to one dogma.  And with that, I’ve dropped some – hopefully – useful knowledge on your head.  Peace, love, dope and I’ll see you tomorrow.

  1. TarmanGotHim says:
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    So as I lie in 1st in 3 leagues in 2nd in another in Baseball. Football is coming up.

    I found Razzball previously to this MLB season and it’s worked wonders.

    I always like your advice and I’m gonna take a lot of it for Footbal this year as I am more fluent with Basketball and Baseball.

    Anyhow, Rivers burned me last year so I won’t go neat him.

    Q? Is, are you gonna go over Standard Draft Stretgy?

    Maybe I missed it. Anyways, been researching a ton before my draft’s and I’m getting to the point where I just need to do my homework for the latter rounds.

    Thanks Sky!!!

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Glad to hear it! I’ve had a few posts so far on draft strategy. You can find it under rankings and there its under Draft Strategy. Just click on it and it’ll show some of what we’ve covered so far.

      • TarmanGotHim says:
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        @Sky: Thanks, I kinda been going by that, thanks for the sleeper posts too. It will help me with my late round picks!!!

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          No prob and thanks for reading!

  2. Macdaddy says:
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    In light of your dislike of two top QB’s….
    In an 8 team keeper league with standard scoring where there is 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1 Q/RB/WR/TE flex and a WR/RB/TE flex (5 keepers) who do you keep then?

    Rodgers Luck Gore Julio Jones Roddy White Amad Bradshaw are the top 6.
    The rest of the RB are not worth mentioning
    Romo Dalton Jennings and Hilton are also options.

    Probably to best two RB’s not on rosters is Lamar Miller and Leveon Bell.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      This post is a draft strategy, not a keeper strategy. I’m saying not to go after the top QBs in redrafts. I’d lose Bradshaw there

      • Macdaddy says:
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        Nice to know I am in good company as that was option #1 for me. Thanks

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          No prob

  3. Clint (aka Pablo Death) says:
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    Awesome post, Sky! I tried convincing my Commish on your unique flex idea and his reply was “Well you know QB’s are going to outscore those other positions, right?” I said I hadn’t looked at the numbers but you gotta figure even a WR3 or WR4′s gonna outscore a guy like Ponder or Gabbert over the long haul, right? Personally, I think he’s clinging to the 2 QB thing for trade purposes because I heard last year he hoarded QB’s and in a 10 team league, guys have to beg for him to deal him help fairly early on in the season if they didn’t draft well.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      That’s why I hate 2 QB leagues. No one should feel like they drafted well because they’re forcing others hands to trade for a meh QB with them. That’s pretty lame.

    • Scott says:
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      @Clint (aka Pablo Death): It depends on your league settings. In my league with 40 yd per point and 5 points per td for quarterbacks, Ponder scored the same as CJ Spiller, so you still want a QB over anything else.

  4. Dingbat says:
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    Awesome idea — I just proposed that our league switch from 2QBs to QB + QB/RB/WR/TE. Hopefully that should keep people from either hoarding crappy QBs on their bench or having empty roster spots during bye weeks.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I love it because it makes everyone draft differently. My 14 team auction I drafted Tannehill/Weeden/Kolb. Granted, not ideal but I only spent about $18 on them. I have T-Rich/Ivory/Mendenhall/Bernard/Daryl Richardson. Overall, it doesn’t cause the inequity of what a 2QB league does and I appreciate that.

      • Dingbat says:
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        @Sky: Oy, it backfired — now people are lobbying to switching to a boring old 1QB league.

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Lame. People are weird about that. Really no reason to force someone to draft Mark Sanchez. It’s bordering on cheating.

  5. BMac says:
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    Thanks for giving some love to this type of league setup. I wish it were easier to find rankings for leagues with an OP-Flex. I’ve been a 2-QB PPR league for about ten years, when we wanted to get away from everyone taking RBs in the first two rounds every year. We changed the second QB to an OP-Flex a few years ago, and it’s been great- it seems like you can win with just about any draft strategy. I tend to try and go with the “One Star, One Scrub” approach.

    In our 10 team league even awarding 6 points per TD regardless of position hasn’t really forced teams to go with the QB-QB in the first two rounds approach or horde QBs- there are just too many of them to risk being super thin at RB. The OP thing really just helps out with injuries/bye weeks and keeps a few of the lesser choices at QB on the waiver wire.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Yup exactly. And it prevents draft inequality. I don’t want to play in a league where trading Alex Smith for MJD is considered reasonable.

  6. FrankGrimes says:
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    what’s your thoughts on when its an auction? I’ve been in this long time 2qb auction league where we actually roster four yep four QBs brutal right? anyhow I was thinking this year going big on RB and then trying to pay less for three solid but not sexy QBs. Last year did the one stud (brees) paired with romo but that was over half my cash and my RB suffered tho Matthews really screwed me over.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      My 14 team auction has Tannehill/Weeden/Kolb but its a 1QB/QB flex. I stick to my guns on only spending $20 on one QB. Eli Manning went for about $32 in that league. I wasn’t having any of that.

      • FrankGrimes says:
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        @Sky: ha all the big guns go for $30+ in my league we start with $100. I’d don’t think I’d touch kolb but those other two look like good bets. what bout Bradford or Schaub as the third option? I’m also thinking bout having Pryor as my fourth QB.

  7. Nico

    John Stamos says:
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    Hey Sky! I’m not in a 2 QB league, but I did want to get your opinion regarding my league’s format, if you don’t mind. We have QB, RB, WR/RB, WR/RB, WR, TE, K, DST. We are currently selecting draft order, and I want to capitalize on the 2 RB in the first 3 rounds strategy. I’d also like to grab a Tom Brady/Drew Brees in my draft. We are the 6th team to select our draft spot, and the first 4 spots were taken as follows: 1,2,6,10

    Do you think there is an advantageous draft position to capitalize on strategy?

    Thanks in advance!

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I don’t really. I’ve drafted from all over and have found success. The key is really to highlight guys you like/want but be willing to compromise. Doesn’t matter where you draft, that is always the case.

      • Nico

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        @Sky: Gotcha. It looks like Richardson is the guy I really want to target in the first round. I think it’s worth looking at the 7 or 8 spot to (almost) guarantee getting him. Thanks again!

  8. Pete says:
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    Will you be doing a “Tiers” spreadsheet this year? If you’ve already done it, I can’t find one. I love that feature for quick reference during my draft.

    • Pope says:
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      @Pete: On the overall rankings page/post, the embedded spreadsheet has tabs at the top that lets you sort by position, or you could go to the menu at the top of the page and look at top 10, top 20, etc. per position as well

      • Pete says:
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        @Pope: Thanks.

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      @Pete: I’ll do my best. Lot on my plate with strategy and preseason info but I’ll do my best.

  9. Pope says:
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    Great post Sky, this is the kind of info I’ve been looking for, this helps a ton, thank you. Love the idea of stacking RB and waiting till the later rounds and grabbing 3 QBs

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      @Pope: no prob and thanks Pope!

  10. timmy riggins says:
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    Whats up, good article. not quite sure i agree w/waiting for a QB till the 3rd round but have a strategy question for you anyhow, if you have any input thatd be great.

    2QB keeper league: Im keeping AJ Green 9th round, awesome. Kept QBs: Wilson, Dalton, Newton, Kaepernick.

    Past years drafting patterns have been most teams drafting QBs early and heavy and those are generally the teams that do the BEST if their QBs perform to expectations.

    Scoring: 6pts/TD, 1pt/40yds passing, 1pt/15yds rushing/receiving, -2pts/INT/fumbles.
    Start: 2QBs, 3WRs, 2RBs only w/NO FLEX
    I have the 3rd overall pick and plan on taking one of: arod, brees, p.manning. Over AP, DMart, JC, etc

    would you trade your 2nd AND 3rd rd pick for the first overall pick to snag 2 of those aforementioned elite QBs? (I have a feeling that if youd execute that trade that youd want AP+QB)

    Heres how I justify it: I have AJ green a 2nd rd value as a 9th rd pick. that can balance the loss. so its as if we drafted him there but forfeit the 9th rd pick so its not like I lose value. and if I stack up 2 ELITE QBs it could be huge.

    Please share your thoughts. would you make the trade or hold? if youd pull the trigger whod you target at #1 and #3 overall. Thank you

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Yeah already said I don’t like the 2QB approach. I’d take an RB there and then a QB. As you stated ‘if they perform up to expectations’. That’ll put you in a better spot overall in my book.

      • timmy riggins says:
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        @Sky: would you make the trade or just hold? thx

        • timmy riggins says:
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          @FrankGrimes: @<a href="

          Think im trading too much? you dont think Bree/Arod combo is unbeatable?

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          It’s not a terrible trade. I’d do it.

          • timmy riggins says:
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            @Sky: thanks, if it was your team youd probably target AP and Muscle hamster and then wait for a QB till the next pick, right?

            Would you be happy with 2 of alex smith, vick, eli, roethlisberger, rivers, freeman, palmer, cutler, schaub/flacco/bradford? id be lucky if eli/romo/roethlisberger/bradford would be around in the 4th/5th.

            You dont think 2 of Arod/Brees/PManning are locks for huge #s? AP/DMart could be sexy too

            thanks for answering the follow up questions!

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              Definitely would and yes, that grouping of QBs I’d be fine with.

              It’s not about whether or not ARod/Brees are locks for huge numbers; we can almost hand them that. The question is how much do you get outscored via position. It’s about the moat, not the top. I look at it like this: ARod/Brees scored a combined 634 last year. The 19th and 20th best QBs last year (Big Ben and Fitz) scored a combined 411.5 for a difference of about 35% loss on the week. Meanwhile, AP/Martin scored a combined 614 points last year. The 19th and 20th best running backs (Bradshaw and Turner) scored 333 points for a difference of about 45%. When you factor in the point difference between your combo vs AP/Doug is only about 20 points, I don’t see you losing out much. If you wanna go the middle road – AP/Brees let’s say – I’m fine with it but I don’t see any reason to be drafting two top end QBs if you got the trade route.

              • timmy riggins says:
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                @Sky: tough call, im gonna pull the trigger on the trade and then over-think the picks for the next two weeks…..thanks again for your thoughts

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Haha no problem. Just don’t let your head explode before the draft. It’s a messy cleanup

    • FrankGrimes says:
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      @timmy riggins: I wouldn’t make that trade but if I did I would take AP and the QB of your choice.

      • timmy riggins says:
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        @FrankGrimes: wrong reply section:

        Think im trading too much?

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          @timmy riggins: it looks good on paper but I agree with the strategy above. the rest of your team will suffer… You will not pick again till the fourth round you have Bress ARod and AJ then what? It could work I’ve seen it work in my 2qb auction league (guy went 13-0 but first round of playoffs his QBs took a dump and he lost) I feel you be better off getting strength elsewhere while peeps are trying to grab all the elite QBs. Actually I could see making that deal since you’d be keeping ARod next year but then I would take AP at 3. Lots of players are gone by time the fourth rolls around it will be disheartening watching em all go before you pick again. This is why I hate snake drafts!

          • timmy riggins says:
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            @FrankGrimes: yeah, cant keep players selected before the 5th rd. tough calls all around. AP/Doug Martin, AP/QB, QB/QB or hold

            Having 2 top 3 QBs and AJ Green heading into the 4th doesnt seem that bad on paper.

            some teams get f’d with QBs and then trade a boat load for one

  11. Mike says:
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    I had a draft just like this on monday and did strategy 3 without even knowing it! It’s like you read my thoughts from the other day!
    It turned out like this (12-TM PPR):

    Dalton
    Alex Smith

    AJ Green
    Antonio Brown
    Mike Williams

    Doug Martin
    Alfred Morris

    Jimmy Graham

    Lamar Miller
    Michael Floyd
    Rashard Mendenhall
    Matt Flynn (sigh)

    thoughts?

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I like that team a lot. Miller as your RB3? That’s nice

      • Mike says:
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        @Sky: cheers!

        • FrankGrimes says:
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          @Mike: is this a 2 QB league?

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Mazel tov!

  12. btd says:
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    Ha! You just had to plug Knowshon!

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      You know it (unintended pun)!

  13. Jack Full O' Hate says:
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    I told JB I’m going to commish an RCL. Are we doing PPR or is that just JB’s special person’s league?

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      All leagues have to be the same and how he describes it on the post so there’s no discrepancy about the master winner.

      • Jack Full O' Hate says:
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        @Sky: you know I have never actually read the post, PPR is progress, I love it

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Ha yeah. One thing I wish it weren’t was 1 point. I meant 0.5 but JB and I got our wires crossed

          • Jack Full O' Hate says:
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            @Sky: that’s why I bailed on RB whenever went crazy on it last night, you know zig, when they zag, may be able to make a trade later

            • Sky

              Sky says:
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              Completely get it now. I was like ’56 points from 112 receptions isn’t that great Jack’ but I get it now. I’ve never actually played a 1 PPR. Should be interesting.

              • Jack Full O' Hate says:
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                @Sky: If you have 6 catches then that’s the same as a TD by a RB and the yards should be comparable. I think it’s going to be a flaw exploited by the PPR savy in the RCL’s…..oops did the oopsball razz fumble? (puns intended)

                • Sky

                  Sky says:
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                  Haha totally. I might employ a little of that strategy when my experts league goes live. Though I think there are some PPR gods going late enough I’ll get to employ a similar strategy as to what I usually do.

                  • Jack Full O' Hate says:
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                    @Sky: might be a good idea to keep it in the back of your head, Sproles was the 13th pick

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Wow, that’s a little nutty

                    • btd says:
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                      Jack Full O’ Hate: Where did Reggie Bush go in this draft?

                      The first time I did a PPR league it was a full point. It was overkill. We dialed it back to 1/2PR the next year.

                  • Jack Full O' Hate says:
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                    @Sky: yeah that’s PPR over kill or isn’t it? I think considering I went completely unprepared and got the 6th pick next to JB, that I did well. Not great, but I always like something to build on and be married to very little on my bench

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Completely understand and agree. I’ve never played in 1 PPR before. Gotta say it makes for weird drafts.

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I actually like the Hannover Hotspurs a little bit even with the setup

                  • Jack Full O' Hate says:
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                    @Sky: just giving you some fat to chew on, Tehol has been so cocky on twitter, you need to take him down…no not that way, the other way

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      I try and lift all of my brethren up. But of course that’s Tehol. He writes one article and preps for one league and thinks he’s god. No time in my playin have I ever seen a luckier draft. Domonic Brown in the 8th and it pans out for him. It was ridiculous.

                  • Jack Full O' Hate says:
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                    @Sky: yeah it’s like people I know that take pride from beating weak players or draft someone high because of their “hunch” and brag about it while not mentioning the other “hunches” they drafted high who failed miserably. I’ve learned a lot from the comments this year

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Yeah if you saw his draft in April you would’ve laughed. Tulo in the first? Scherzer in the 4th ahead if Wainwright and a bunch if other arms? His draft made no sense. But he’s in the lead so what can you say?

                  • Jack Full O' Hate says:
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                    @Sky: to quote my father, “it’s better to be lucky than good”

                    • Sky

                      Sky says:
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                      Indeed, sometimes it works out that way.

  14. Charles says:
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    Sorry, non-QB question, but would you keep Joseph Randle at $1/yr for 2 seasons if it meant you couldn’t drop him until after 2014? We play RB/RB/WR/WR/Flex with 5 bench spots. Thanks!

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      You’re a terrible person. How could you ask a non-QB question. I keed. I don’t see a good reason to keep him. Murray is the lead back until proven ineffective or injured.

  15. Steven says:
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    Sky,
    Love your idea of QB/RB/WR/TE flex position. I’m trying to change owners mind about 2 qb league. What should be my main argument against 2 qb leagues? I know you said you are against them as well.

    Thanks

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Here’s a few things that make it work better in my mind:

      1) A more diverse strategy: 2QB leagues usually lead to a clamor for QBs to lead off a draft. The QB flex allows for variations of draft strategy and they can all be equally effective. I tend to take RBs early still but others choose to take QBs. It makes the draft more intriguing overall.

      2) Less douchey trades: most people who just love the 2QB leagues love them for one reason and one reason only. They like to draft 3 or 4 of them and try to sluff off the cruddy one in a trade because they’ve thinned the pool. the QB flex allows for a more balanced trade approach where it doesn’t hinge on positional scarcity as much as it does team needs.

      3) No more bye week hell: Seriously, is there ever a time a team should have to start Blaine Gabbert?

      I’d say that’s a good starting point with leaguemates.

      • steven says:
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        @Sky: would it make a difference to you if a 3 qb max is in place?

        • Sky

          Sky says:
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          Would depend on league size but I’d venture to say there are about 24-26 viable starting QBs in the league this year so unless it’s an 8 team league, people are still getting stuck starting/drafting guys who shouldn’t be in that scenario. Played with a friend in a 10 team with 2 QBs last year. Wasn’t a big fan.

  16. Frank White says:
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    Sup sky… My regular PPr league I’m def picking up 2 backs first! The thing is, say I have the 5th pick and I grab spiller or something. By the next time I come around There will still be great RB’s left but I was wondering if you would skip down like 10 – 15 rankings to grab a RB that you feel might be better?? Example – They got Chris Johnson, Morris n Ridley ranked in your area but way down they have Jones Drew, McFadden and Gore. Do you drop down for that??

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      I have no problem with that. I aim for 2 RBs in the first 3 rounds. I’m not all that high on McFadden but I like the other two.

  17. Mr. April says:
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    Sky,

    12 Team Non-PPR Auction League
    Playing a new league this year with some unique position eligibilites. We start…

    QB
    RB
    WR/TE
    WR/TE
    WR/TE
    RB/WR/TE
    DEF
    K
    6 Bench

    So basically you don’t need to start a TE at all if you don’t want to. My question is what TEs if any besides Graham, Gronk, Gonzalez and maybe Witten would have value in a league like this.

    Thanks in advance…

    • Sky

      Sky says:
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      Interesting. Given the health risk, I’d avoid them all together unless Graham or Gronk went really cheap.

  18. Colin says:
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    Sky great article. Relevant to me as we have sort of a 2 Qb league…we have an OP slot (offensive position) that most in our 10 team league tend to gravitate towards having a second Qb (4 pts for td and 1 pt per 20 yards)

    Based on that please give me your advice on 5 keepers. We have $260 to fill out our squads. Total cost of all 5 keepers is deducted off the $260 and keepers below with no prices are still $1.

    1 Bench Jake Locker, Ten QB
    9 Bench Bears D/ST D/ST
    Bench Mikel Leshoure, Det RB P
    40 Bench Tony Romo, Dal QB
    1 Bench David Wilson, NYG RB K
    Bench Josh Gordon, Cle WR SSPD
    1 Bench Owen Daniels, Hou TE
    1 Bench Kenny Britt, Ten WR P
    Bench Danario Alexander*, SD WR O
    Bench Andre Brown, NYG RB
    Bench Knowshon Moreno, Den RB P
    35 Bench Wes Welker, Den WR
    5 Bench Reggie Bush, Det RB K
    Bench Lamar Miller, Mia RB K
    1 Bench Mark Ingram, NO RB
    Bench Shane Vereen, NE RB K
    15 Bench Steven Jackson, Atl RB K

    Thanks in advance!

    • Sky

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      Thanks Colin. Even with it being a sorta 2 QB league, I’d go cheap with that roster of yours and aim for a QB or two in the draft. Wilson/Gordon/Miller/Bush/SJax. I know that’s a lot of RB but they’re great values. Can swing a trade from that depth if you want to or just go money crazy in the draft. Those are some really cheap players.

      • Colin says:
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        @Sky: thanks Sky… wow I am thinking then same thing….with Gordon being my last pick…it’s between him and Vereen….I think Shane breaks out in a big way…but I’m too RB heavy….believe me I tried to to trade for Dez Bryant and Chris Givens but both said no. So when everyone is fighting over RB’s I guess, I’ll be swooping up the best of the rest at the other positions.

        What is your opinion on Gordon? He worries me a bit but his value at $1 can’t be ignored.

        • Sky

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          A $1 Gordon is worth the price of admission. Kid’s a beast, just needs to keep his head on straight. Think the Browns will surprise a bit on offense this year and Gordon will be a big part of it as long as no off field issues come up.

          I’m with you on Vereen. It was either him or SJax for me and I felt SJax had a more direct role that would contribute weekly (RB1) vs Vereen being a nice PPR flex option. Both are cheap, wouldn’t fault you if you went Vereen over him but I prefer SJax there.

  19. Derrick says:
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    In a .8 PPR league who would you keep between Victor Cruz and Matt Ryan.

    12 man league. 1 QB, 2 RB’s, 2 WR’s and a flex.

    • Sky

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      I’d give Cruz a shot there.

  20. trick dad says:
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    Hey sky…I’m in a ten team 2Qb league with keepers. [my keepers are AP (2nd round), Ridley (3rd), Russell Wilson (5th)]
    I have the 6th pick overall. Most likely the top 3 QBs will go in the first 5 picks, so I’d be looking at Brady/Stafford and McCoy/Rice as first round options. So the question is QB or RB? I don’t have another pick until the 4th round where I expect even Cutler to be gone. In this league, QBs are drafted very early. Appreciate the help.

    • Sky

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      Do you have a flex spot where you can start a 3rd RB? I’m tempted to say McCoy or Rice if you do. I think pairing Wilson with an underrated QB who’s decent but not flashy – think Weeden/Alex Smith – would be fine in your situation.

      • trick dad says:
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        @Sky: yes it’s qb,qb,RB,RB, flex , WR,WR. Thanks for the input!

  21. jamie says:
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    14 team PPR qb, wr, wr, rb,rb, WRT WRt TE , k, def… Need to keep 3 200$
    Bowe- 23
    Sjax – 32
    Abrown-6
    R bush- 29
    D wilson 13
    Garcon 19
    Witten 12
    Vereen 6
    Ivory 7
    PManning 19

    • Sky

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      It may sound crazy but I’d go Wilson/Ivory/Vereen there

      • jamie says:
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        Yea i think I like that the best too, I just get nervous that the wr’s remaining arnt going to form a strong enough core if my Rb’s don’t pan out. I’m still torn between that and Pmanning, Ivory, Vereen or wilson

        • Sky

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          Manning is a nice value but those kind of keeps are hard to call as I don’t know what other QBs are going back into the draft; I’m not against it but if I can get another good QB in the draft by throwing him back, I wouldn’t hesitate.. I just didn’t see any major values with the WRs you listed and you can start 4 RB and you only have to start 2 WR. WRs much easier to fill via the draft and you’ll have plenty of money to do it with those keepers.

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            7 qb’s kept ,

            could target brady, arod, but i’m sure they’ll go for more then i want to spend or a romo or vick for 20 or less.

            thanks for the feedback.

            • Sky

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              Yeah, I’d just ride it out with Romo in that situation if Manning goes for huge dollars. Really, if you wanna throw Vereen back I don’t blame you if you keep Peyton; both players are cheap in their own right. It’s a good/difficult decision to have to make.

  22. Blake says:
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    Thx for your insight – its been great! When will you be doing a TE strategy post? it seems like if you don’t get graham you just wait till the end of the draft? who do you like at the bottom of the TE’s that will perform (possibly) like a top 10 TE?

    • Sky

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      Yeah, that’d be a short post! It’s Graham/Gronk or bust for me this year and even then, I don’t see myself taking either really. You should look at my TE rankings to get a feel for what guys I like later in the draft. There are quite a few.

  23. Sean says:
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    Thanks for the content! There isn’t enough info about 2 QB leagues out there. My 2 QB league is a PPR, PPC (point per completion), 1 point per 5 rush yards, 1 point per 10 receiving yards, and we are limited to having only 3 QB’s on our roster at any given time. Needless to say that in the first 3-4 rounds QB’s are flying off the board. I’ve considered bulking up at the other positions and trying to roll w guys like Cutler/Bradford/Tannehill but its a damn risky proposition. What do you think is the best way to go about my draft???

    • Sean says:
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      @Sean: Also, we get 6 pts for a passing TD, not the standard 4

    • Sky

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      Thanks for reading, Sean! I’m a big proponent of the second draft strategy but if the right guy doesn’t fall to me, I have zero qualms with going after a bag of what others call ‘meh’. Since you can only roster 3 at any given time, I’d get one steady guy (think an Alex Smith type) and then go for two upside plays. Darkhorse QB I like right now is Weeden. Looks like more shotgun this year which plays better into his style.

  24. Frank White says:
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    Sup Sky… Sorry but before I ask my football questions, can you please just help me with this one important baseball question??

    I posted this to grey last night after him saying to do the trade and take the Gio side..
    Heygrey… when wewere talking that me giving Porcello n Cole for Gio Gonzalez n MartinPerez, I know you said take the Gio side. butI’m just getting nervous cause what if porccello n Cole keep up winning through my playoffs cause Gio has been losing and I don’t know much about Martin.. Would this totally be a stupid move not to do this trade or do you think I have a point??

    But after I wrote this to him, he said ” It’s fine if you don’t want to do it’. Do you think after writing that that I have a point? cause this move will affect my playoffs in 2 weeks.. What would you do!???? Like I said, the trade deadline is TODAY.

    • Sky

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      Here’s the deal: you ask a question and someone gives you the answer. Then you argue with them about their answer. What are they supposed to say? You come here and ask for an opinion on trades but if you push back and say why you shouldn’t do it then why are you asking? Not trying to be rude but that’s the reality. You asked for his opinion and he gave it and then you disagreed with him. You have to want to do the trade, saying why you shouldn’t do it sounds like you don’t want to. You have to make that decision, not anyone else.

      And FWIW, I agree with Grey. Not a huge Martin fan but you can’t chase wins. They’re too fickle. Gio is the better pitcher out of the three.

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        I understand but all i’m seeking is different opinions from different people.. I’m not disagreeing with him. I totally understand his view cause he’s saying that it’s my choice and it wouldn’t be stupid if I didn’t.. Come on man. You need to cool down on talking down to me

        • Sky

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          Frank, you didn’t actually ask me a question about the trade via what you said, you asked me about what Grey said to you with a 5 word blurb asking what I would do. It’s fine you want different opinions from different people, Frank. If you feel like me giving you my opinion on what you presented is talking down to you, then maybe you should frame your questions better.

          • Frank White says:
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            What would you do with that trade offer considering my playoffs start in 2 weeks. Would you trade porcello n Gerritt Cole for Gio Gonzalez and Martin Perez??

            • Sky

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              And FWIW, I agree with Grey. Not a huge Martin fan but you can’t chase wins. They’re too fickle. Gio is the better pitcher out of the three.

              • Frank White says:
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                That’s not a straight answer though.. If that were your team, would you trade Porcello n Cole for them??

                • Frank White says:
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                  Not to be a wise ass.. I promise dude. lol

                • Sky

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                  Agreeing with Grey when he told you to take the Gio side is not a straight enough answer? Not sure what to say about that, Frank…

                  • Frank White says:
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                    Oh I thought you meant when he said the other comment… My bad

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                      Quick question, I saw that Cole might be going to the bullpen in September which would be good for the trade. Does Martin Perez have job security through our playoffs?

                    • Sky

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                      That’s hard to say, really, but in the end if Cole is going to the bullpen anyway and you’re getting the best pitcher in Gio does it really matter? It’s a good trade, I’d take it.

                    • Sky

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                      No worries, my man.

  25. Bernie Brewer says:
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    Hi Sky! I have a keeper question for you, I’m looking for another opinion. I’m in a 10 team, 2 QB (4pts/pass TD), PPR league where you can keep 2 players and redraft them in the same round as the previous year. I was lucky enough to grab AP in the 3rd last year, so it’s a no-brainer to keep him.

    My other choice is a little tricky. I could either keep Peyton in the 4th or Ridley in the 6th. Peyton was the #5 QB in my league last year, while Ridley was #14 RB.

    Right now, I’m leaning toward Peyton, with it being a 2 QB league, I like to have at least 1 stud QB (and I don’t know which other QB’s will be kept until after I make my decision). But, Ridley in the 6th round is great value, and I might even be lucky enough to redraft Peyton without keeping him….argh!

    Any thoughts?
    Thanks!

    • Sky

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      Though I agree Ridley is a good value, I think Peyton’s trumps it for a 2QB league. I’d lean Manning there but realize my bias: I’m not a huge Ridley fan.

      • Bernie Brewer says:
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        @Sky: Thanks Sky! Good luck this year, I’m sure I’ll be back again for more questions!

        • Sky

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          Glad to hear it and good luck to you as well!

  26. Principle Blackman says:
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    Great post, Sky.

    I fully endorse QB + QB/flex leagues. Last year in my 2 QB league, I went with the Star/Scrub approach, taking Lynch, Stafford, & Charles with my first three picks. I drafted my second QB (Carson Palmer) in the 9th or 10th round, and I had the top team going into the playoffs… Of course, I screwed things up in the first round of the playoffs and got bounced. I think I might try the Scrub-a-dub-dub strategy this year and see how that works out.

    • Sky

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      Thanks and I agree. Keeps draft strategy interesting and doesn’t lend itself to unfair advantages/hoarding.

      Nice! Yeah, Stafford had a weird year last year. I fully expect a bounceback in the works. There are a lot of names I like late for QB. One I didn’t originally rank keeps getting more and more interesting to me: Weeden. Probably doesn’t need to be drafted in a 10 team but keep your eye on him. He’s been playing mostly out of shotgun this preseason – more akin to what he’s used to – and could have a very useful QB2 season.

  27. Frank White says:
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    I’m also in a 12 team PPR league.. I never plyed in a 12 team.. Should I still take 2 RB’s in first 2 picks??

    • Sky

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      Unless Megatron falls to you in the first later then his expected value (think 10th or 11th pick), I’d still go RB/RB.

      • Frank White says:
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        So if my draft number is 10th or 11th and he’s not taken then grab him then RB next??

        • Sky

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          Yeah, you’ll definitely want an RB in the second round at that point.

          • Frank White says:
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            Yeah.. I never did a 12 team so I hope It works out.. Yo those Chris Ivory videos gave me a hard on, Lol.. I’m a huge Jets fan. He’s a beast and fast as hell.. has he played in the pre season?? I’m not a fan of watching pre games but I never hear about how he’s doing..

            • Sky

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              Ha! He’s been dinged up. Had his first preseason appearance last night. Looked like a guy with some rust on him but that’s to be expected. I mainly watch preseason for position battles or to see how a guy looks if I’m keying in on him. Meaning I’m not watching Tony Romo. Nothing new there but I am watching guys like Philip Rivers to see how they’re adapting.

  28. Frank White says:
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    Also I love Stephen A Smith but did you hear what he said about how He pampers and takes care and does everything for him but put diapers on him?? Then Gino Smith over here has A pretty good pre season game and hurts his ankle then him knowing that it might affect his practice he had to go out there and tell the media that he was BRUTAL!! It’s fucked up cause , Now he’s gonna lay hard into Geno and start acting like he doesn’t take shit especially when he had an ankle problem and after all the shit Sanchez did He never Layed into him like that ever.. Rex needs to get off Sanchez’s dick.. You agree with what he said??

    • Sky

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      @Frank White: I can’t stand Stephen A, nor Skip Bayless nor most of those guys on ESPN. Don’t have cable I’m very happy for it. They just don’t cover sports anymore. It’s like The View for sports enthusiasts.

      I think Sanchez is just ok; he fits the limited scheme of that offense and Rex likes it that way. Hard to really say about Geno. Problem with the QB position is it has a lot more to do with who you are off the field then who you are on it, sometimes. Geno still has to prove himself. Not that Sanchez really has but at least his team has been successful in the past. I’m not saying he did it by himself – wouldn’t even say he did 25% of the heavy lifting – but I’m just not sure Geno is the answer either. I’m in wait and see mode on him right now.

  29. bufish says:
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    we have a qb + qb/rb/wr/te but would your strategy change if qb passing td’s are 6pts rather then the normal 4 pts that most leagues use. please advise. i draft in the 4th spot in a 10team league and am leaning toward manning or brady (assuming ap/brees/rodgers or off the board) because of the 6pt td change.

    • Sky

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      I think unless there’s a large reason to believe the guy will pass for 40 TDs – I can only think of 2 or 3 that are likely – I’d still wait a bit. A guy like Romo will probably throw 30 while Brady will probably throw 35. If there’s a huge price difference, I’ll take a few less points at QB to nab a good RB.

  30. Jeff says:
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    Great post, and interesting breakdown… I’ve been in a 10 team 2QB, WR/RB/TE for a few years now, with Megatron and Brees as my keepers. I’ve never relied heavily on RB’s, but still scraped away to win the title with great receivers (Megatron, Marshall, V Jax) and non-flashy rb’s (Ridley, Murray). It’s a lot more tedious trying to scrounge away for RB’s during the season, but it feels like having solid QB’s and WR’s to rely on really helps…. Anyway i have the last pick this year and will likely have slim chances at good RB’s again…. do i run to my old strategy of WR’, TE’s, and QB’s again, waiting for sproles, vereen, bradshaw, mendenhall (all barely RB2′s) or do i pick up a reggie bush, chris johnson or ridley and stay the course…

    • Sky

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      I’m assuming your league is standard not PPR via that Sproles mention. Correct? If that’s the case, you can just wait. I like Bradshaw the most out of that bunch for a standard league even with his health history.

  31. Sal says:
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    I’m in a 12 team PPR-PPC LEAGUE that also awards 6pts for pass td’s. it is a qb plus qb flex option. Would you recommend to go qb/qb with the PPC Element of the scoring. 1st time in this type of league. We will also have to start 2 rb’s – 3 wr’s and flex WTR -

  32. Sean says:
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    So ive drafted my ppr, ppc, 2 qb team…what do you think???
    QB’s – Cam, Wilson, Wheeden
    RB’s – Spiller, Forte, Ivory, Matthews, D. Will, Woodhead, A. Brown
    WR’s – Cruz, Wayne, V Jax, Hilton, Jeffery, Little
    TE – Caneron
    K – Bullock
    DEF – Indy

    • Sky

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      That’s a very solid looking team for a 2 QB league. Lot of RB depth and it didn’t hurt your WRs. Very solid team, should be very competitive.

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